Phightins Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Not happening. Typical, disappointing. This league is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Players, owners, commissioner, this entire thing is just [expletive]ing ridiculous. It is just [expletive]ed since they know, and we know, that we are all going to come back anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Islanders moving to Brooklyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Islanders moving to Brooklyn....beginning in 2015-'16. Story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 [expletive] the NHL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 According to LeBrun, the Winter Classic is officially cancelled. There goes whatever motivation the NHL had left to save the season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 According to LeBrun, the Winter Classic is officially cancelled. There goes whatever motivation the NHL had left to save the season... From everything I've been hearing and reading recently, it's the shit teams that are messing everything up. Some of those teams are the Ducks, Blue Jackets, Coyotes, Stars, Panthers, and a few other teams. They aren't letting some of the big team owners into certain meetings. SO DUMB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 From everything I've been hearing and reading recently, it's the shit teams that are messing everything up. Some of those teams are the Ducks, Blue Jackets, Coyotes, Stars, Panthers, and a few other teams. They aren't letting some of the big team owners into certain meetings. SO DUMB! I think its all the teams, and all the players. Both sides are (seem) being incredibly stubborn, and they aren't as far apart as they seem. The fact the owners REFUSE to honour the contracts they signed is ridiculous. A 50-50 split with no escrow the first 2 years seems fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I think its all the teams, and all the players. Both sides are (seem) being incredibly stubborn, and they aren't as far apart as they seem. The fact the owners REFUSE to honour the contracts they signed is ridiculous. A 50-50 split with no escrow the first 2 years seems fair to me. I was hearing today and yesterday that it's come out that Mike Ilitch hasn't even been allowed in meetings by these crappy ass teams because they don't want him there and other big team owners. It's the expansion and shit team that are making everything difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Progress made in NHL talksNo details emerge from meetings in New York, but sides will meet again Wednesday. Seven hours of meetings between representatives of the NHL and the NHL Players' Assn. on Tuesday in New York produced at least one key agreement: that they had enough reason to reconvene Wednesday to continue exploring resolutions to the labor dispute that has wiped out more than a quarter of the schedule.http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nhl-labor-20121107,0,1837062.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Heard that about 5 times in the past 3 months. I'll believe there is progress when there is an NHL game being played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) As NHL Talks Continue, NBA Could Aid in Solution "The NHLPA and the NHL met today to discuss many of the key issues,” Donald Fehr, the union’s executive director, said in a brief statement released Wednesday night. “We look forward to resuming talks tomorrow.” Negotiations began around 3:30 PM and continued until about 9 PM. They followed a Tuesday bargaining session that lasted about seven hours. Fehr and Commissioner Gary Bettman headed the delegations on each side. The league did not release a statement. The main obstacle between the two sides was how to honor existing player contracts when the players’ share of the league’s revenue drops from 57 % to 50 %. The NBA lockout of 2011 may provide a clue as to how that obstacle may be overcome. “Everyone wants to compare,” Sidney Crosby told reporters in Pittsburgh before departing for New York to attend Tuesday’s bargaining session. “It does have some resemblance.” When the NBA lockout was settled a little less than a year ago, the league’s owners honored existing player contracts. The language in the new collective bargaining agreement guaranteed that salaries signed previously “shall continue to be calculated in accordance with the salary cap rules that were in existence at the time the contract was entered into.” That is the language the NHL PA wants in a new agreement with the league. The owners went on a signing binge in the weeks before the lockout, including the Minnesota Wild’s signing of Zach Parise and Ryan Suter to twin 13-year, $98 million deals. The players want such deals honored in full. The NY Times Edited November 8, 2012 by Sħãlïq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Apparently the NHL is losing sponsorship deals now. The value of the NHL has also gone down 25% since the lockout started. What a [expletive]ing disgrace this is right now. They spend the past 8 years trying to rebuild after the last lockout, and when they finally start making good money, they piss it all away with this stupid shit. Its not all Bettman and the owners either. The players are a lot to blame. And the comments a lot of them are making about Bettman being "stupid" and "a cancer" are not helping matters at all. They're even wearing hats that say "Puck Gary". They need to grow the [expletive] up. I'm so pissed off with the whole situation its unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) This whole situation is so [expletive]ed up. I'd love to sit here and say I won't be as big a fan, but I doubt it'll happen. One thing is for sure though, I was definitely a Leafs fan first last year, and maybe that had something to do with the fact the Leafs were decent and the Raps were bordering on unwatchable, but I am definitely going to be a bigger Raps fan than Leafs (like I was for most of the past 7 years or so), and the team is still pretty brutal as long as Bargnani is there. This whole thing is ridiculous. It is insane how close they seem, but how far apart they act. Both sides are so stubborn it seems, and the owners know the fans will come back. I really do think this lockout is going to affect the league more than the owners think though. I do think sponsors will be affected (who the [expletive] wants to pay premiums when the league stops every 5-10 years), and I feel like growth will be affected long term, maybe not in the near future, but I doubt we see the 5% growth like we were the past few years. It's just really frustrating as a fan. This shouldn't have come to this. Players should have conceded the 50-50 right away, owners have to honour those contracts, they have to. Its so ignorant for them to try and weasel their way out of them. Players have to concede contract term limits, every other league has them. The solution is right in front of their faces, but I feel like both sides are too arrogant and too stubborn to get there. The good thing is that the Leafs are going to sign Getzy and Perry in the summer, so this season was kind of a throw away anyways. Edited November 23, 2012 by Check my Stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I hate to admit it, but I'll still probably choose Leafs over Raptors once the lockout is over. The Leafs are just a bigger part of me. I grew up a Leafs fan and have been one since I was a toddler. The fact that I only just recently became a diehard Raptors fan makes it hard for me to choose them over my Leafs, even though they frustrate me so much. This lockout is making me depressed to be honest, and watching the Raptors [expletive]ing suck and the Giants play like shit is not helping matters. I would give up watching basketball and football for the year if it meant I got the Leafs back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I enjoy hockey more than any sport other than baseball, so I will be back. As will 99% of fans of big market teams, with the exception possibly being pissed off season ticket holders who lost money this year. But I know the Flyers pretty much have a season ticket waiting list, as do most popular teams I think. So no loss there. And small market fans don't really exist to begin with. So nothing is going to change, and Bettman knows it. Which is probably why he has no problem dragging this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Sounds like mediation was a failure. This may be the final blow. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 :'( ..... I was maybe going to try getting into some random European team and watch the games online or something, but I don't see myself doing that. And with the Raptors being a joke and the Giants season being over fairly soon, lifes going to suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 @wbzsports WBZ's Steve Burton reports a deal to save the #nhl season could be announced tomorrow or Wednesday ECN...thoughts on WBZ Sports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 ECN...thoughts on WBZ Sports? Well, the 98.5 "The Sports Hub", which is definitely Boston's most popular sports radio station is under WBZ CBS, so I think it may have some credence. However, Steve Burton is more just a pre game reporter and post-game reporter, and I've never really seen him follow the NHL much, so I'm not sure. Hopefully he is correct though, although this season just won't feel the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Nevermind...Daly already shot it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Progress? Iain MacIntyre @imacVanSunSportsnet's Nick Kypreos says some coaches are calling players to tell them to be ready for imminent return. #CBA I will remain skeptical until I see a signed CBA, but this is easily the best sign we've had so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 @MattBarnaby3636Just got a text from owners side that his guess is season starts on dec 26th. @TheNYRBlogA trustd source of mine close to Rangers has informed me the team has called its playrs back from Europe. Wonder if that includes Del Zotto? @tpanotchCSNconfirmed: BOG talked of 50/60 games; leaning < 60 ... guvs "feeling very positive." Another good sign: no 'drop dead' date was discussed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Starting to sound pretty good. I saw a tweet someone said that the Pens owner said he's not leaving the negotiating room until a deal is done. Could they reach a deal as early as tonight? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Progress? I will remain skeptical until I see a signed CBA, but this is easily the best sign we've had so far. Of course the one to have the accurate information about the lock-out is a Boston sports reporter. No surprises here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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