Owner Real Deal Posted September 29, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 TIME: 4:05 PM ETTV: FOX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 As long as our secondary doesn't get burned too bad by Fitzgerald we should get this W. Go BIG BLUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 No Tuck today, but Osi will make his debut. He'd better show up to play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 The Giants are bad. Terrible turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 lol Victor Cruz, Giants luck out, gonna steal this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Terrible call by the refs, but either way, the Cardinals defense is terrible. They give Eli all the time in the world to throw.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 lawl, I'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballorama Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 wow another ten point comeback.. man the cards flat out choked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Giants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Here's the call for anyone that missed it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1tokHtcvZo&feature=player_embedded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 That's an awful call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 10. Victor Cruz call was the right one. Sunday’s most controversial call came in Arizona, site of one of the biggest wins in Giants’ history. Receiver Victor Cruz fell down, got up, and left the ball behind. Cardinals defenders, who foolishly failed to touch Cruz while he was down given that he could have gotten up and kept running, recovered the ball. Though many disagree with the decision (some, like Tony Dungy of Football Night in America, strongly), the rules support the decision that was made. A play ends when a runner “declares himself down by falling to the ground, or kneeling, and making no effort to advance.” That’s what Cruz did. He fell to the ground, and he made no effort to advance. Play over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 It's a dumb rule, and I think 99% of people would agree with that, and I'm not saying you don't. This is almost as dumb as the rule that screwed Calvin Johnson last year. That should have been a fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 He fell forward isn't that making an effort to advance? lol. Going to the ground with no effort to advance would be going feet first or going to a knee, when you fall forward you are making an effort to advance the ball clearly. Oh well, it happens I suppose. I think Cruz's own statement of the idea of him being touched and going to the ground he thought he was down. He himself said he wasn't giving up on the play he just thought he was down. There are very few instances where players declare themselves down in the league. I wonder how it would have been had tables been reversed. Had Cruz got back up and ran for the TD and it being called back, Eli Manning throws int on next play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 He fell forward isn't that making an effort to advance? lol. Going to the ground with no effort to advance would be going feet first or going to a knee, when you fall forward you are making an effort to advance the ball clearly.I think you're misreading it. Obviously when you fall forward the ball moves a bit.. they mean not trying to advance in that he was done making a play with the ball and was giving himself up. There were multiple defenders around him and he didn't want to risk possession to gain a few extra yards. He said it in the post-game interview. Oh well, it happens I suppose. I think Cruz's own statement of the idea of him being touched and going to the ground he thought he was down. He himself said he wasn't giving up on the play he just thought he was down.Well, that's why he put the ball down and thought the play was over, but he most definitely gave up on the play. That's why he went to the ground without tripping or being tackled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 It's a dumb rule, and I think 99% of people would agree with that, and I'm not saying you don't. This is almost as dumb as the rule that screwed Calvin Johnson last year. That should have been a fumble.Well, there needs to be a definite wording change. As it lies, he gave himself up. They should alter it to say how you need to give yourself up without trying to advance, such as saying that you must slide feet first or take a knee, or, on the other end of the opinion, clarify that a headfirst drop to the ground qualifies as giving yourself up as well. Grey area. Either way, the ref got it wrong, calling him down by contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I suppose, either way yeah the NFL really has to get it's rules straight. I feel like every year we get this strange calls that no one knows what to make of them. Tuck rule, Calvin Johnson, the overtime, kickoffs, this I'm sure I could go on and on with the list but the point is the NFL rule book needs some evaluation. Hopefully owners get together this season and get it right. Then again it's hard to compensate for any unforeseen circumstances so I guess we will never have perfect rule book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Mike Pereira said it should have been ruled a fumble.......just saying. Anyways, I guess you could say it's a grey area issue, but they really need to make a lot of the rules in the NFL much clearer. They need to be concise, and not debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Mike Pereira said it should have been ruled a fumble.......just saying.He did, but he also acknowledged that under the current rules, it's a judgement call that can go either way. Anyways, I guess you could say it's a grey area issue, but they really need to make a lot of the rules in the NFL much clearer. They need to be concise, and not debatable.Yes, that is what I was trying to say with the grey area comment. Rules need to be black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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