Occupy Wall Street

[EastCoastNiner]

These people are absolute fools.

 

Let me live in a $1,200/month apartment, go to an expensive college, get parking tickets, and bitch that it's not my fault.

 

 

This moron wants college to be paid for......because that's what he wants .

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syfKVgkLwEE&feature=player_embedded

[Real Deal]

Yeah, I think they are going overboard with their demands. A bit unnecessary.

 

We have something similar in my hometown right now, and today, I made a very basic logo for them to use on their signs (funny enough).

 

http://coffeyvilleforums.com/occupy.jpg

 

Of course, the stuff being protested around here has more to do with our city, just a similar theme/idea.

[EastCoastNiner]

Yeah, I think they are going overboard with their demands. A bit unnecessary.

 

We have something similar in my hometown right now, and today, I made a very basic logo for them to use on their signs (funny enough).

 

http://coffeyvilleforums.com/occupy.jpg

 

Of course, the stuff being protested around here has more to do with our city, just a similar theme/idea.

 

A little off-topic, but speaking of Kansas, didn't Topeka just pass something where they would not be prosecuting domestic abuse cases, but just recently reversed it, so now they will? .

[Real Deal]

A little off-topic, but speaking of Kansas, didn't Topeka just pass something where they would not be prosecuting domestic abuse cases, but just recently reversed it, so now they will? .

Something like that, but I thought the cases were handled by the state to begin with, so I have no idea what any of that was about.

[fish7718]

Some of them have legit things to protest, however most of the people are pot smoking 24 yr olds who have no job and think they are doing something for a cause. They are really just hurting NYC because they are having sex in the park near wall street and doing a whole bunch of drugs. In reality most of them are just a bunch of hippies.

[NomarFachix]

I wouldn't apply the "most" label in this situation.

[Lkr]

but the tea party is cool

[JYD]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/panic-of-the-plutocrats.html?_r=1

 

It remains to be seen whether the Occupy Wall Street protests will change America’s direction. Yet the protests have already elicited a remarkably hysterical reaction from Wall Street, the super-rich in general, and politicians and pundits who reliably serve the interests of the wealthiest hundredth of a percent.

 

And this reaction tells you something important — namely, that the extremists threatening American values are what F.D.R. called “economic royalists,” not the people camping in Zuccotti Park.

 

Consider first how Republican politicians have portrayed the modest-sized if growing demonstrations, which have involved some confrontations with the police — confrontations that seem to have involved a lot of police overreaction — but nothing one could call a riot. And there has in fact been nothing so far to match the behavior of Tea Party crowds in the summer of 2009.

 

Nonetheless, Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, has denounced “mobs” and “the pitting of Americans against Americans.” The G.O.P. presidential candidates have weighed in, with Mitt Romney accusing the protesters of waging “class warfare,” while Herman Cain calls them “anti-American.” My favorite, however, is Senator Rand Paul, who for some reason worries that the protesters will start seizing iPads, because they believe rich people don’t deserve to have them.

 

Michael Bloomberg, New York’s mayor and a financial-industry titan in his own right, was a bit more moderate, but still accused the protesters of trying to “take the jobs away from people working in this city,” a statement that bears no resemblance to the movement’s actual goals.

 

And if you were listening to talking heads on CNBC, you learned that the protesters “let their freak flags fly,” and are “aligned with Lenin.”

 

The way to understand all of this is to realize that it’s part of a broader syndrome, in which wealthy Americans who benefit hugely from a system rigged in their favor react with hysteria to anyone who points out just how rigged the system is.

 

Last year, you may recall, a number of financial-industry barons went wild over very mild criticism from President Obama. They denounced Mr. Obama as being almost a socialist for endorsing the so-called Volcker rule, which would simply prohibit banks backed by federal guarantees from engaging in risky speculation. And as for their reaction to proposals to close a loophole that lets some of them pay remarkably low taxes — well, Stephen Schwarzman, chairman of the Blackstone Group, compared it to Hitler’s invasion of Poland.

 

And then there’s the campaign of character assassination against Elizabeth Warren, the financial reformer now running for the Senate in Massachusetts. Not long ago a YouTube video of Ms. Warren making an eloquent, down-to-earth case for taxes on the rich went viral. Nothing about what she said was radical — it was no more than a modern riff on Oliver Wendell Holmes’s famous dictum that “Taxes are what we pay for civilized society.”

 

But listening to the reliable defenders of the wealthy, you’d think that Ms. Warren was the second coming of Leon Trotsky. George Will declared that she has a “collectivist agenda,” that she believes that “individualism is a chimera.” And Rush Limbaugh called her “a parasite who hates her host. Willing to destroy the host while she sucks the life out of it.”

 

What’s going on here? The answer, surely, is that Wall Street’s Masters of the Universe realize, deep down, how morally indefensible their position is. They’re not John Galt; they’re not even Steve Jobs. They’re people who got rich by peddling complex financial schemes that, far from delivering clear benefits to the American people, helped push us into a crisis whose aftereffects continue to blight the lives of tens of millions of their fellow citizens.

 

Yet they have paid no price. Their institutions were bailed out by taxpayers, with few strings attached. They continue to benefit from explicit and implicit federal guarantees — basically, they’re still in a game of heads they win, tails taxpayers lose. And they benefit from tax loopholes that in many cases have people with multimillion-dollar incomes paying lower rates than middle-class families.

 

This special treatment can’t bear close scrutiny — and therefore, as they see it, there must be no close scrutiny. Anyone who points out the obvious, no matter how calmly and moderately, must be demonized and driven from the stage. In fact, the more reasonable and moderate a critic sounds, the more urgently he or she must be demonized, hence the frantic sliming of Elizabeth Warren.

 

So who’s really being un-American here? Not the protesters, who are simply trying to get their voices heard. No, the real extremists here are America’s oligarchs, who want to suppress any criticism of the sources of their wealth.

 

I think Krugman does illustrate the Occupy Wall St. well. They do have legitimate gripes on certain things...

 

Some of them are there because they think it's cool though.

[EastCoastNiner]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/panic-of-the-plutocrats.html?_r=1

 

 

 

I think Krugman does illustrate the Occupy Wall St. well. They do have legitimate gripes on certain things...

 

Some of them are there because they think it's cool though.

 

I would read that article, but I saw that Krugman wrote it. He is the worst economist there is, even though he's won undeserving accolades. There have been many articles and publications destroying any credibility he has. That guy is an idiot.

[fish7718]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/panic-of-the-plutocrats.html?_r=1

 

 

 

I think Krugman does illustrate the Occupy Wall St. well. They do have legitimate gripes on certain things...

 

Some of them are there because they think it's cool though.

Most of them are there because they think it's cool lol

[fish7718]

I would read that article, but I saw that Krugman wrote it. He is the worst economist there is, even though he's won undeserving accolades. There have been many articles and publications destroying any credibility he has. That guy is an idiot.

Like anyone can even know that...

[NomarFachix]

Most of them are there because they think it's cool lol

Do you really think that "most" of them are there because they think it's cool?

[fish7718]

Do you really think that "most" of them are there because they think it's cool?

No job and nothing better to do, yes...

[NomarFachix]

No job and nothing better to do, yes...

Their being there because they have no job already means that they're there with reason. It's far bigger for a majority of the participants than just a cool trendy event.

[fish7718]

Their being there because they have no job already means that they're there with reason. It's far bigger for a majority of the participants than just a cool trendy event.

I never said they were there without reason. I also disagree, I don't think it's far bigger for the majority. Obviously they all want rich people to pay their college loans off. Only a few of them there have a level head and know what they are protesting, others they are just there because they are angry and this seems like the cool trendy thing to do.

[NomarFachix]

I never said they were there without reason. others they are just there because they are angry and this seems like the cool trendy thing to do.

Well, if they're there to support an idea and a movement.. can they be there merely because it's cool and trendy at the same time? I think those are conflicting interests.

 

I also disagree, I don't think it's far bigger for the majority. Obviously they all want rich people to pay their college loans off. Only a few of them there have a level head and know what they are protesting

These are gross generalizations and assumptions.

[NomarFachix]

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[EastCoastNiner]

Fish has a legitimate point. Yes, there are people there protesting for reasons that they believe are legitimate, which is perfectly fine. However, there are also two other groups of people protesting. People that just want to be part of a big movement, and people that have no [expletive]ing clue what they are talking about.

 

Have you seen the videos of many of these retards speaking? They have NO clue about anything.

[NomarFachix]

However, there are also two other groups of people protesting. People that just want to be part of a big movement, and people that have no [expletive]ing clue what they are talking about.

I never argued otherwise.

[JYD]

Fish has a legitimate point. Yes, there are people there protesting for reasons that they believe are legitimate, which is perfectly fine. However, there are also two other groups of people protesting. People that just want to be part of a big movement, and people that have no [expletive]ing clue what they are talking about.

 

Have you seen the videos of many of these retards speaking? They have NO clue about anything.

Wait, are we talking about the Tea Party movement or Occupy Wall St.?

 

Regardless, don't you realize this is the case with ALL demonstrations that become (somewhat) popular?

[Flash]

Fish is definitely right that a lot of them just want to be out there to say that they were there. Also, if you go on youtube its not hard to see that a lot of the people out there have no clue about what they're protesting. Instead of sitting out there, doing nothing at all why not go out and do your best to at least look for a job and quit bitching and doing nothing productive. Sitting there isn't going to get you employed.

[JYD]

Lmfao!! Why go to NYC and protest when you can do so in the streets of my hometown!!!

 

 

 

Rofl more outstanding footage

 

Edited October 18, 2011 by JYD

[NomarFachix]

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[fish7718]

There is someone who knows what they are protesting!

[NomarFachix]

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