Built Ford Tough Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Doesn't seem likely at all. Most likely amnesty cut: None How likely not to use amnesty this season? Slam dunk Other amnesty candidates: None Analysis: The Bulls will be interested in the amnesty process when the season starts, but strictly in terms of the players released by other teams. Grantland's Bill Simmons graciously suggested that the Bulls use the amnesty provision on Carlos Boozer to create salary-cap space for the potentially loaded 2012 free-agent class, but sources familiar with Chicago's plans insist that it's not even a consideration. Boozer's debut season in Chicago was an undeniable struggle, but the Bulls like the roster they've assembled -- filled with recent free-agent signees and players on their rookie contracts -- and are focused on adding to it. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7147880/nba-most-likely-amnesty-candidates Are there any players on the Bulls roster that you think should be let go, or do you agree with the notion that the Bulls don't have anybody worth using the clause on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?QuestionMark? Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I don't see anyone worth using the amnesty on for Chicago. I know Boozer was a disappointment in the playoffs, but he still provides Chicago an inside threat that isn't exactly easy to replace via FA. The only guy they could use it on just for the sake of using it on is Brewer if they feel 4 million is too much for defensive specialist and just sign a guy like Dominic McGuire to fill that role. But I'd keep the current team as is and just add a SG. There'll be plenty of options: Arron Afflalo, Jason Richardson, and Shane Battier as my top choices. Then guys like Roger Mason, Michael Redd, Anthony Parker, DeShawn Stevenson, and Willie Green would be next on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 But I'd keep the current team as is and just add a SG. There'll be plenty of options: Arron Afflalo, Jason Richardson, and Shane Battier as my top choices. Then guys like Roger Mason, Michael Redd, Anthony Parker, DeShawn Stevenson, and Willie Green would be next on my list.They will work out for them in the regular season, but come playoff time, the Bulls will fall once again because as it was proven in the Miami series, they need another player capable of creating his own shot. I highly doubt the Bulls cut ties with Boozer, they still like what he brings to the table, and having that duo of him and Taj is very comforting. The amnesty clause could however, help find them a legitimate SG. Names like Brandon Roy and Ben Gordon are being thrown around, honestly wouldn't mind seeing either of them suiting up for Chicago.Both are risky moves, but I don't see why not if the price is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built Ford Tough Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Speaking of risky moves, how awesome would it be if the Bulls cut Boozer, managed to pawn of Brewer on somebody and then signed Dwight Howard using the cap space they created? I don't know for sure, but I do think it is plausible under the cap, although not very realistic. Still, could you imagine a lineup of: HowardNoahDengKorverRose ??? If the Bulls had the balls to even try something like this, and it worked out, it would quite possibly be the greatest move in the history of the NBA. That is just a pipe dream, though. I'd be absolutely shocked if the Bulls actually cut Boozer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 That would be amazing, and I'm sure they would look to trade Noah for a more offensive minded PF. Having Howard in the paint is probably the only way Korver gets to start, DH12 is used to playing with below average defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I don't know for sure, but I do think it is plausible under the cap, although not very realistic. Still, could you imagine a lineup of: HowardNoahDengKorverRose ??? Personally, I'd start Gibson at PF (I love what he brings, and he's a true PF), and pawn Noah off for a legit SG. Anyway, I doubt they use the amnesty clause this season. If they realize next summer, after another run with this roster, that they have a shot at Dwight and will need a player like that to propel them to a championship, that's when I'd use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?QuestionMark? Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 They will work out for them in the regular season, but come playoff time, the Bulls will fall once again because as it was proven in the Miami series, they need another player capable of creating his own shot. Agree but right now they need to focus on just getting production from their starting SG position. If Roy or Gordon or even Hamilton don't get amnestied, then those players I listed are their best options. They can't afford to not sign one of them just because they can't consistently create their own shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built Ford Tough Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Personally, I'd start Gibson at PF (I love what he brings, and he's a true PF), and pawn Noah off for a legit SG. Anyway, I doubt they use the amnesty clause this season. If they realize next summer, after another run with this roster, that they have a shot at Dwight and will need a player like that to propel them to a championship, that's when I'd use it. I don't know. The thought of pairing Howard and Noah on the defensive end is something that I would be very hard pressed to pass up. With pick and roll being such a promminent part of a large majority of teams' offensive repertoire, the Bulls defense would be nearly impossible to score against considering how adept Howard and Noah are at defending pick and rolls. I also don't think Noah would have any problems playing the 4. Maybe on offense things might get a bit crowded in the paint as he isn't able to step outside the paint like Gibson can, but I wouldn't be too concerned with his ability to play the 4. He has the frame for it and is certainly athletic enough to play it. Add in Deng as the defensive stopper on the wings, who just so happens to be one of the best wing defenders in the league, and it is a defensive frontcourt that is just absolutely drool worthy. I'd try to move Gibson for a middle of the road shooting guard (not a star, but an equally talented one as Gibosn is at the 4) and rolling with a lineup like that before dealing Noah. I just couldn't resist the possiblity of pairing that kind of godly defensive frontcourt. At the very least, I would give it a try before trying to deal Noah. Either way, though, it would be scary. Whether they keep Noah or deal him for a 20 point scorer at the shooting guard spot, it the Bulls would be a very dangerous team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I don't know. The thought of pairing Howard and Noah on the defensive end is something that I would be very hard pressed to pass up. With pick and roll being such a promminent part of a large majority of teams' offensive repertoire, the Bulls defense would be nearly impossible to score against considering how adept Howard and Noah are at defending pick and rolls. I also don't think Noah would have any problems playing the 4. Maybe on offense things might get a bit crowded in the paint as he isn't able to step outside the paint like Gibson can, but I wouldn't be too concerned with his ability to play the 4. He has the frame for it and is certainly athletic enough to play it. Add in Deng as the defensive stopper on the wings, who just so happens to be one of the best wing defenders in the league, and it is a defensive frontcourt that is just absolutely drool worthy. I'd try to move Gibson for a middle of the road shooting guard (not a star, but an equally talented one as Gibosn is at the 4) and rolling with a lineup like that before dealing Noah. I just couldn't resist the possiblity of pairing that kind of godly defensive frontcourt. At the very least, I would give it a try before trying to deal Noah. Either way, though, it would be scary. Whether they keep Noah or deal him for a 20 point scorer at the shooting guard spot, it the Bulls would be a very dangerous team. Gibson is an excellent defender himself, won't clog up the paint as you said, and won't have the kind of big contract that comes with keeping Noah. Noah would also bring in more value for the Bulls to bring in players that could aid them in areas of concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Wouldn't Dwight play the 4 in that scenario with Noah at the 5? Considering Dwight probably matches up better with other teams PF? Anyway I think it's silly to talk about cutting Boozer, Rose needs a legit 2 option and Deng just ain't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Wouldn't Dwight play the 4 in that scenario with Noah at the 5? Considering Dwight probably matches up better with other teams PF? Umm...what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Dwight is 6'10" and more athletic, I don't see what was confusing about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built Ford Tough Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Dwight is 6'10" and more athletic, I don't see what was confusing about that? I'd rather have him guard the bigger centers than Noah who can get pushed around a bit by some of the bigger players in the league. With Shaq and Yao calling it quits, there isn't a center in the league who can match up physically with Howard anymore while there are plenty that can give Noah some troubles physically. It would also be more beneficial to have him guard the weaker offensive player, which is more often than not the center, so that you can make better use of his brilliant help defense. Noah can match up really well with 90% of the power forwards in the league and in the cases where you really need to lock a guy up, throw Howard on him. I can understand the thinking behind having Howard guard power forwards, but I'd probably rather have him guarding the opposing 5, enabling him to be more help conscious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Dwight is 6'10" and more athletic, I don't see what was confusing about that? Dwight has a wingspan that is about 4" longer than Noah's (which is what allows guys like Wade to play SG as opposed to PG), is much stronger and heavier than Noah, and does his defensive damage with his threat of shotblocking. Noah is quicker laterally than Howard and is better in PnR situations, so why put Howard in situations where he is not as comfortable in, and takes him further away from the basket which would take away his defensive strengths (which would happen since most PF's in the league have a 15-18ft jumper). Also, on offense Dwight does all his damage near the rim, while Noah can stretch the defense more. In other words, it makes no sense to play Noah at C over Dwight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 You really think Noah is quicker laterally than Howard? hm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 You really think Noah is quicker laterally than Howard? hm. Yes. Just because he's Dwight Howard doesn't mean he's the most athletic big man in the league in every single aspect. Same with LeBron...LeBron's a freak athletically, but he's a little slow-footed laterally and there are multiple SF's with quicker lateral speed (not saying Dwight is slow-footed, but I think Noah gets the edge there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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