Check my Stats Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Not a huge fan of tying max money in defensive specialists. Tyson is obviously a terrific fit though. Will still be interesting to see how they play with mediocre SG/PG's.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Wow. This is crazy. My phone has been blowing up the past hour w/ friends telling me about this. But, seriously, I'd be disappointed losing Amare. But, a Paul/MELO/Tyson trio is a lot more intriguing then Melo/STAT/Tyson right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Well this came out of nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'd stll be surprised if this happened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Chandler to the Knicks would be incredible; he'd dominate in the east as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 @alanhahn Alan HahnGetting indications that Tyson Chandler to #Knicks is foregone conclusion. But nothing tells me Amar'e is on trading block. #fb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 @WojYahooNBA Adrian WojnarowskiJust spoke to Andy Miller, agent for Chauncey Billups, who describes his client as "irate" over possibility of Knicks using amnesty on him. I see this for sure, and I feel bad about it. I'd feel horrible for Amar'e, too, if anything comes of this Paul talk. Two great guys who played hard for us and really want to be around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 @WojYahooNBA Adrian WojnarowskiAgent Miller on Billups: "He has no intention of being open-minded about any possible situation where a team would claim him off waivers.." @WojYahooNBA Adrian WojnarowskiMore agent Andy Miller on Knicks exposing Billups to amnesty waiver wire: "....unless it's a team he chooses himself. Buyer beware." Sounds like Billups is going to be a real problem child if this goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Billups doesn't fit anyway, he never did, let's be honest. We are better off with technically "downgrading on paper" at PG and getting Chandler then we are with not getting Chandler, and going into this season with Billups... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 @WojYahooNBA Adrian WojnarowskiJust spoke to Andy Miller, agent for Chauncey Billups, who describes his client as "irate" over possibility of Knicks using amnesty on him. I see this for sure, and I feel bad about it. I'd feel horrible for Amar'e, too, if anything comes of this Paul talk. Two great guys who played hard for us and really want to be around. Chauncey should go to Boston if they trade rondo for a center or miami... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Can the Knicks not make the signing official until tomorrow? (DEC 9) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 ^^ I believe so. An agreement can be made, not sure it can be official though until something happens/works out with Billups/Turiaf @alanhahn Alan HahnMultiple sources tell Newsday that Tyson Chandler will be a Knick. Billups and Turiaf involved to clear cap space. #Knicks #fb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I really do not want Tyson Chandler lol especially at the money this demands, does anyone remember Tyson Chandler in Charlotte? Please spare me, let's keep the CP3/STAT/Melo dream alive, unless you trading Chandler, Landry and Douglas for CP3 I'm down with that lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I really do not want Tyson Chandler lol especially at the money this demands, does anyone remember Tyson Chandler in Charlotte? Please spare me, let's keep the CP3/STAT/Melo dream alive, unless you trading Chandler, Landry and Douglas for CP3 I'm down with that lol.I know it's hard to cope for as a knicks fan but what about a trio of chandler/melo/paul? that is really more balanced imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Chandler is a better immediate fit for us. Provides us with a defensive upgrade that we so desperately need. Trade the farm for Paul and we have three competent players on the entire roster and still nobody to play on the defensive end of the court, trotting out Ronny Turiaf as our best defensive player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [expletive]ing Warriors lose their chance cause of New York. -_- This will def make the Knicks even better and more of a contender now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Chandler is a better immediate fit for us. Provides us with a defensive upgrade that we so desperately need. Trade the farm for Paul and we have three competent players on the entire roster and still nobody to play on the defensive end of the court, trotting out Ronny Turiaf as our best defensive player.it's pretty much impossible to get chris paul now. we'd have to part with amare or maybe even carmelo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 it's pretty much impossible to get chris paul now. we'd have to part with amare or maybe even carmeloI understand that, I was addressing Fish's post that we should hold out hope for Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I understand that, I was addressing Fish's post that we should hold out hope for Paul.Oh ok. i thought you were saying we still had the assets to trade for Paul when you said "trade the farm" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I love the signing, this is exactly what they needed. However, there's still a downside to this. The PG position is the most important position in Dantoni's offense, you can't leave it up to the erratic play of Toney Douglas can you? Knicks had a lot of problems, particularly in the playoffs when it came to rebounding and contesting shots in the paint. Those days are over if/when they get Chandler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 @KBergCBS Ken BergerOn Knicks-Chandler front, sources say it looks like Billups will be amnestied and Turiaf will be sent out in separate deal. No sign/trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 However, there's still a downside to this. The PG position is the most important position in Dantoni's offense, you can't leave it up to the erratic play of Toney Douglas can you? I agree, but I felt like this had already taken a shift with the acquisition of Melo last year.. he did a whole lot of ball handling after coming over. I still think they need to upgrade the PG position, maybe by signing Tinsley out of the D League or trying for Sessions (after they sign Chandler, they still have their MLE.. right?) I wouldn't be upset with running Douglas and Shumpert out there if we used our MLE on Grant Hill, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Yeah Douglas is definitely NOT the answer as a true PG. Good bench player, nice defender, streaky, like his energy, but definitely not a starter on a contending team. Don't see how Jamaal Tinsley upgrades the team tbf. There's a reason he was in the D-League. At this point, we must use our MLE on a PG... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Pretty sure they don't have a full MLE, but that smaller MLE that is like 2.5M or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I agree, but I felt like this had already taken a shift with the acquisition of Melo last year.. he did a whole lot of ball handling after coming over. I still think they need to upgrade the PG position, maybe by signing Tinsley out of the D League or trying for Sessions (after they sign Chandler, they still have their MLE.. right?) I wouldn't be upset with running Douglas and Shumpert out there if we used our MLE on Grant Hill, either.See the thing I'm wondering is, how will the offense work? Last year you had willing/good passers to initiate the pick and roll with Amare, which was absolutely devastating for defenses last season. Now you can't assume Melo those responsibilities because he's not a good passer, nor is he a willing one (especially off the p&r). If you're a Knicks fan right now, there's absolutely no reason to feel upset. All of this talk is just minor concerns, I fully believe with Chandler, New York is legitimate contender despite their weak bench and potentially poor PG play. Now the question of how far this Knicks squad goes is up for debate, because depth is a major issue, but there's no denying the talent they possess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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