Owner Real Deal Posted December 19, 2011 Owner Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 TIME: 10:30 PM ETTV: NBATV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 damn should be a fun pre-game show at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Checking this game out during halftime of the MNF game. Weird seeing CP3 wear a Clip UNI, same with Billups haha. I like the look of their team thus far in the very few minutes (obviously) I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerGuy Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I think I'm going to like McRoberts this season. Two very sexy plays offensively in the first quarter there. Kobe's shooting lights out too...looks like the extended offseason has done him wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) That first quarter was unbelievable...this is going to be a great match up to watch the next few years. Didn't realize the Lakers picked up McRoberts, and this kid at point guard is hitting some nice shots. Mike Brown's been energetic and I hear him yelling every play lol. McRoberts is perfect for this team and you can already see him impact the energy on the floor. The Clippers look sick. When I saw that starting five run the court, it just looks sick. Add to that Mo as the 6th man and Gomes, Foye...this could be a great team. The only problem could be finding a back up big man. Edited December 20, 2011 by Cleveland's Finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I'm telling you, Josh McRoberts is a VERY fun player to watch. That's why I hated that signing by the Lakers, because I hate the Lakers but really like Josh McRoberts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 20, 2011 Author Owner Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Favorite Lakers as of tonight: 1) KB2) McRoberts3) Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeroadkill Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 just check the box scores, lmao "world peace' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Clippers going crazy right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 just check the box scores, lmao "world peace'hearing MacDonald say "world peace" was pretty funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Were gettin destroyed. Time for some preseason doom and gloom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 That Jordan block was nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNotoriousBANG Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 wow clippers were not wise running up the score you dont wanna piss kobe off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?QuestionMark? Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 LMAO at Mike Brown's offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 20, 2011 Author Owner Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I don't want to dive into this too much, but I probably will. I'm not looking at the loss, but how we run our offense and execute our defense. 1) The Lakers are TRYING to run what the Spurs used to back when Mike Brown was assistant under Pop. It's a "four out, one in" offense (there are multiple names for it), and I don't think it's going to work. Popovich worked the opposing teams with a Duncan/Robinson duo, one being the greatest PF of all time, the other an incredibly underrated center that is one of the best we were watching in the 90's. Let me put it this way: now we know why we signed Kapono and Murphy, and why we drafted Goudelock. My gripe with it all is...Bynum is not an effective passer out of the post. You can tell him over and over again (Phil did), and it won't register. He will not create out of the post. He's not Hakeem, not Shaq, and he never will be. Sure, if you took Gasol's mentality (someone who wants to create) and mixed it with the aggressive low post play of Bynum, we'd have the perfect center...but that's not how it works. Gasol is not a low post player, and Drew is not a low post facilitator. This also seems to take the ball out of Kobe's hands more often, which is okay...except, when he does get the ball, despite being at his "sweet spots" (as Brown noted he wanted to see happen), the defense doesn't have much of a problem doubling him because they are not worried about our three-point shooters. When Kobe catches at the elbow, for example, his positioning makes it easy for a perimeter defender to leave his man and double...and what man would he leave? Ron? He would gladly do it. Gasol? Sure thing. We aren't going to get very far with this offense. Something has to give. I would not be surprised to see changes very early in the season. 2) Our defense isn't impressive, and not because of the system, but because of our players. At some point, even Brown's system will look bad. Our defensive transitions are terrible. Aside from McRoberts, I didn't see much weak side help. Recovering and contesting outside shots...didn't see much of it, and it's not always about effort, but our players are getting worked because the Clippers (who are a new team) used spacing to pull our defense apart, and when a defense feels disconnected, it tends to collapse inward, and that's where we let shooters drift to the outside, far too open for us to contest. Half of our guys don't have the legs to cover that kind of ground for all 48 minutes, and this will get worse as we progress through an 82-game season (well...66 this year). 3) We will have no depth on our roster. I'm actually fine with Ebanks and Morris starting, but both will be eaten alive many times throughout the season. What does that matter, though, when I can say the same about Artest and Fisher/Blake? Artest will only be good for us defending Paul Pierce (can't say he'll be effective against Durant, as I've seen KD in practices, and he has been focusing on eliminating his problems against physical defenders...won't get into it, because I'll type forever, but you'll see this season). In other words, Ron shouldn't see much time on the court. His contract, and now his play, is a detriment to our game. I like the guy, but I have to be honest. Same with Fisher and Blake. I know just how bad Fisher will play this season, so I didn't need to see him...but Blake does not rake in enough defensive attention to create for anyone, and a simple post-entry pass every time down the court doesn't make him any more valuable than Darius Morris. Outside of McRoberts, who will be a pretty good sixth man for us, we won't have much. Barnes isn't the same player we saw in his early years with other teams...just too many minor injuries stacking up and changing his game. Goudelock could be fine, but the verdict is still out on him. Walton is done. Fisher is done for 95% of the minutes he will play (I'll give him the green light to shoot a clutch shot at the end of the game, but that doesn't make up for his bad play for the other 20 minutes or so). I'd like to see us do something with that TPE, even if it means getting a starting PG or SF...but looking at other rosters, I'm not sure what would be available right now, aside from dealing Drew and the TPE to Orlando, which I would do in a heartbeat. -------- Again, this isn't about us losing. I expected the loss, as long as the Clippers were going to play Griffin, CP3 and their starting unit for a significant amount of time. As I said in another topic, the Clippers put together a team of guys that compliment each other well. The fact is, our team of guys only compliment each other in the triangle offense, and when Kobe is able to dominate. Rewrite the script, and expect more out of our post...we don't make it. Gasol is not a low post player, and Drew is not THAT big of a threat under the rim (and if he was, he would still decline to pass the ball). Brown needs to understand that this is NOT Tim Duncan and David Robinson. An offense that asks for our bigs to facilitate for Kobe? That hasn't happened since Shaq, and that was really only in the early stages of the dynasty. Tonight, the Clippers ran through the motions. They played off of open shooters, took what was given to them. When we play them again (twice), in January...especially the late January game...they could be rolling, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them roll completely over us. Giving them a month to learn how to pick and roll with CP3, drawing up fast break plays with Griffin and Jordan running the sidelines...they didn't do that tonight, but they will soon. We were out there to win, not to experiment, and what we saw from our guys duplicated what we saw from them against the Dallas Mavericks, minus better play from Kobe...and that tells me nothing will change, because all of that was based on teams exploiting our many weaknesses, something that isn't hard to do against a team led by a 16-year veteran that needs his teammates to hit open shots, take the low post and attract defenders, and create a few shots of their own as he plays off the ball a bit. In short, don't expect to see much improvement from last season. A healthy Kobe would've still seen a loss to an elite Dallas Mavericks team. The difference is, now, we have trashed an offense that led to five championship rings, and has been the staple in Kobe's career. We may see more athleticism on the defensive end, as guys like Ebanks, McRoberts and Morris will see time on the floor...but our defensive awareness will still suffer, and above everything else, our offense will be a thorn in our side, unless Brown realizes what he truly has in the frontcourt, and adjusts accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsguy9695 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 im glade the clippers won this game. I hope they take over LA basketball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Sheed Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 The Clips handled biz last night. I believe the Lakers will not have a prob being contenders this year but there is def a buzz in LA that goes more towards the Clips. The Clips are more balanced, energetic, and have more depth in their lineup. There is a log jam at guard but that is a good problem to have. Billups, CP3, Foye, and Mo Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 The Clips def have potential but I won't have a judgement on them until mid season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Chauncey's oop to Griffin: This was the play that got Blake a technical for hanging on the rim ( which was deserved, I know he wasn't being a jackass but you can't hang on there like that ). Reflecting on the game, reviewing highlights, post game interviews and speculations on the season ahead I thought this was a really cool gesture and big team play. Chauncey easily could have laid it in for an easy 2, hell he could have popped up a wide open 3 if he wanted. He paused a sec, looked back and waited for Blake to come down letting the new kid get some more props rather than putting in an easy layup. Chauncey played really well last night, and for a guy whose agent told teams to not put in a waiver request for him, and the uncertainty if he'd even play here he looked really pleased to be here and really seemed to fit in well. Let's hope more of this to come but more importantly, PLAYOFFS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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