EastCoastNiner Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 http://www.foxnews.c...uicide-mission/ Dropped this in here since we're on the topic. It was only of time before Al-Queda ditched the elaborate plots and tried something like this. Thoughts? *Waits for lkr to go back hundreds of years and bring up the crusades or some garbage* Call it stereotyping if you want, but it's no coincidence that most of these acts are committed or plotted by those that claim Islam as their religion. It's not stereotyping, but the hard cold reality of the world we live in today. You can say that the people that commit these acts are not "real Muslims", but that doesn't matter. They still use Islam as their platform and reasoning for why they commit these acts. It's not all Muslims, but it's a much larger percentage than other religions that commit, or try to commit acts like these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 [expletive] islam man we should just kill everyone that practices it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'm pretty sure no one has said anything close to that in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'm pretty sure no one has said anything close to that in this thread.where did i say anyone has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Greatness Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 They still use Islam as their platform and reasoning for why they commit these acts.That is like condemning white people because Hitler only exterminated non-Aryans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 *Waits for lkr to go back hundreds of years and bring up the crusades or some garbage* Call it stereotyping if you want, but it's no coincidence that most of these acts are committed or plotted by those that claim Islam as their religion. It's not stereotyping, but the hard cold reality of the world we live in today. You can say that the people that commit these acts are not "real Muslims", but that doesn't matter. They still use Islam as their platform and reasoning for why they commit these acts. It's not all Muslims, but it's a much larger percentage than other religions that commit, or try to commit acts like these. It's because the Middle East, by an large, is unstructured, which allows people to manipulate the religion to get the desperate masses to follow through on their agendas. It has nothing to do with Islam specifically...any relgion can get manipulated like this, and each one has been manipulated for evil, selfish agenda's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 It's because the Middle East, by an large, is unstructured, which allows people to manipulate the religion to get the desperate masses to follow through on their agendas. It has nothing to do with Islam specifically...any relgion can get manipulated like this, and each one has been manipulated for evil, selfish agenda's. I kinda follow what you're saying but a lot of it as well has to do with a lot of the Eastern Hemisphere and the M.E. specifically not adapting to the modern world like the rest of the world has. They're living in the stone age over there it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I kinda follow what you're saying but a lot of it as well has to do with a lot of the Eastern Hemisphere and the M.E. specifically not adapting to the modern world like the rest of the world has. They're living in the stone age over there it seems.you do realize the US has to take a ton of blame for that, right? it is kinda hard to build stable countries over there when the US plays these countries against each other all the damn time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 you do realize the US has to take a ton of blame for that, right? it is kinda hard to build stable countries over there when the US plays these countries against each other all the damn time. Lmfao really? I shouldn't be surprised by this but wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I kinda follow what you're saying but a lot of it as well has to do with a lot of the Eastern Hemisphere and the M.E. specifically not adapting to the modern world like the rest of the world has. They're living in the stone age over there it seems. With the lack of stability over there, it's hard to reach the development of places like the US and most of Europe. Regardless, my point is that Islam itself is peaceful at its core, it's just when people manipulate it it can be used as a weapon. With the instability over there, it's a perfect place to use religion to manipulate the desperation of the people. However, pretty much every religion has been used to manipulate people to do evil, it's not an Islam exclusive thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Lmfao really? I shouldn't be surprised by this but wow.Do you just sleep during class, or what? Did you fail US History? Next thing you'll say is that there was no Civil War or something. Read about the Iranian coup in the 50s. Read about the Iranian/Iraqi war. Read about US involvement in Afghanistan. Why are you so blinded by the idea that the US does nothing wrong? The fact that people like you who do not understand foreign affairs or the history of foreign affairs can vote is scary. Do you really think I am making up historical events?http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/http://iran.sa.utoronto.ca/coup/web_files/markcoup.htmlhttp://www.stanford.edu/class/e297a/Afghanistan,%20the%20United%20States.htmhttp://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/ I know that elementary math is a problem for you, but you can read, yes? Edited February 20, 2012 by Lkr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 No, its people like you that think the US is to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world that are scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 No, its people like you that think the US is to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world that are scary.The US isn't to blame for everything. The US created its own enemy. It is a fact. If you can't accept this, then go back to middle school. I'm not a Ron Paul guy, but even he will tell you that the US creates its own problems:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m76BOQ_2Hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Smh..I'm done. If you're just gonna be a bitch and throw out personal attacks this isn't worth my time. No one is saying the US is perfect by any means but stop acting like we're responsible for how [expletive]ed up things are over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Smh..I'm done. If you're just gonna be a bitch and throw out personal attacks this isn't worth my time. No one is saying the US is perfect by any means but stop acting like we're responsible for how [expletive]ed up things are over there.Stop acting? It is a [expletive]ing fact. Nothing is worth your time since apparently you can't accept historical facts. I mean holy shit you probably clicked none of my links. You have some sort of cynical belief where the United States has no responsibility for any problems that it has created. Sorry, but blind patriotism gets you nowhere in the end of the day. If you cannot accept the failures of this country, then you don't deserve to discuss events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I wish I had a drawing pad so I could draw a flow chart for you, but here is tl;dr Iranian relations with the United States. If you choose to ignore this or say something isn't true, you can look at the sources I provided, which have other sources properly cited for your convenience! Iranian people democratically elect a government. US/UK overthrow government, install puppet dictatorIranian people finally overthrow this dictator, and want to be in control of their own nation, so you have the current government system installedDo you really expect them to not harbor resentment? Then take into account that the US was "neutral" in a bloody Iranian/Iraqi war. The US secretly backed Saddam and the Iraqis. Do you really expect the Iranian people to be totally cool with being backstabbed by a neutral party? And this is just the tl;dr version of IRAN! Don't even bother to get me started on Afghanistan! If you continue to say historical facts aren't true, then you're just making yourself look foolish for everyone to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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