Flash Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 UK needs to pick up the pace and see if they can end the game with a big run. All it'll take is one of those runs IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Anthony Davis is unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Anthony Davis is unbelievable.he almost pulled a Chris Douglas-Roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobb Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Anthony Davis does that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 nice. as predicted. can't wait to collect my 150 bucks. holler @ me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Congrats to Coach Cal on his first title too. He seems like an awesome coach to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Congrats to Coach Cal on his first title too. He seems like an awesome coach to play for.Scum of the Earth, couldn't have happened to a worse guy. Credit Kansas for making it close but Kentucky obviously just the best collective talent in college basketball this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Scum of the Earth, couldn't have happened to a worse guy. Credit Kansas for making it close but Kentucky obviously just the best collective talent in college basketball this year.how do you figure and he might be coaching the Knicks next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Why the Cal hatred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built Ford Tough Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Some unorganized random thoughts: All those missed shots early in the half really came back to bite Kansas in the ass. I didn't think it would matter because I didn't think Kansas would cut the lead down to 6 points. Also, those two missed opportunities in the final minutes (the Johnson travel on the 3 and the Taylor layup that was blocked) really hurt. I can't help but wonder how different the game would've been if those two shots went in. Full credit to Davis and MKG for outstanding defensive plays, though. The biggest missed chance was that Taylor turnover. He is such an infuriating player with his terrible decision making. A very talented guy, but just has too many mental lapses. Doron Lamb does not get nearly enough credit for Kentucky. He was outstanding for them all season long yet all of the publicity went to Davis, MKG or even Jones and Teague. He was without a doubt the 3rd most valuable player on this team. MKG was invisible in the 2nd half, but good on him for coming up with that huge block on Taylor's reverse. Other than that I didn't even notice him in the 2nd, though. Good job from Kansas to make a game out of this late. I love their fight but, like I said earlier, you can't afford to spot this Kentucky team a double digit half time lead and expect to come back and win. Wasn't the best game as there was a lot of sloppy play and poor execution, but it was an entertaining game regardless. I certainly wouldn't consider it a classic or anything like that, but a fun one to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted April 3, 2012 Author Owner Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Why the Cal hatred?I'm not sure if you're serious or not. Do you realize how many people can't stand him for what he did? -------- Anyway, I'm not going to be one of those Kansas fans that sits there and hesitates to criticize the team, talking about how sad this shit is, etc. They cut the lead to five, had a chance to close in, but had three consecutive mistakes (horrible turnover, a potential steal that they decided to let go out of bounds - until UK grabbed the ball, and a bad travel by Johnson because he was afraid of Davis). That's at least six points and the lead, if they could score buckets on each of those, but KU has been consistent only with their small (yet, large in magnitude) mistakes throughout the game. The one thing I said over and over again was that Kentucky was not going to be a team that KU wants to be down against...not by 18-19 points. I knew they would see a gap, and make a very good attempt at jumping it (because that's what we always do, in the second half), but our offense has been horrid through the entire tournament, compared to what we had been doing throughout the regular season. Robinson and Taylor came in and did their thing...about 30 minutes too late. We needed consistency throughout the game, and it wasn't there. They were the two guys I feared would lose this game for us, and they really did. Withey did extremely well making sure Davis didn't get any easy buckets, held him to 1-10 shooting...and Robinson did great on the glass. I thought Releford did a wonderful job on Kidd-Gilchrist (which I expected). Other than that, though...nothing else is worth mentioning, aside from Kentucky being a great team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Those Champions hats were awful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built Ford Tough Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Robinson and Taylor came in and did their thing...about 30 minutes too late. We needed consistency throughout the game, and it wasn't there. They were the two guys I feared would lose this game for us, and they really did. I agree with Taylor but can't with Robinson. I realize he struggled with his shot to start the game, but the effort and energy was certainly there. He just couldn't get looks because Davis was almost always shading him and providing Jones with help. I certainly wouldn't put the blame for this loss on Robinson, though. I thought he played a damn good game given what he was up against. Certainly not flawless, but a good one nonetheless. The biggest factor (aside from Kentucky being a better team) was all the easy baskets the team as a whole missed. They were too worried about Davis rotating over to block their shot that they either rushed the shot (bigs getting boards, which includes Robinson) or they just threw something off the backboard and hoped it would fall (manly all their perimeter players). I realize Davis is a huge presence defensively, but you can't let him get in your head like that. Even if you get your shit swatted a few times, you still need to look to finish aggressively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted April 3, 2012 Author Owner Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I agree with Taylor but can't with Robinson. I realize he struggled with his shot to start the game, but the effort and energy was certainly there. He just couldn't get looks because Davis was almost always shading him and providing Jones with help. I certainly wouldn't put the blame for this loss on Robinson, though. I thought he played a damn good game given what he was up against. Certainly not flawless, but a good one nonetheless. The biggest factor (aside from Kentucky being a better team) was all the easy baskets the team as a whole missed. They were too worried about Davis rotating over to block their shot that they either rushed the shot (bigs getting boards, which includes Robinson) or they just threw something off the backboard and hoped it would fall (manly all their perimeter players). I realize Davis is a huge presence defensively, but you can't let him get in your head like that. Even if you get your shit swatted a few times, you still need to look to finish aggressively.The missed floaters were killing us. Every single floater that went up, I expected it to hit the highest part of the backboard, and it usually did. Johnson, Taylor...they were throwing them up so high, and sometimes so fast, that they would bounce high off the glass and hard enough to barely graze the front of the rim on the way back down. I've had a problem with Robinson the entire tournament, not just tonight. He shot 39% against those first five teams of the tourney, leading up to this game (where he shot 35%). A great deal of those misses were near or under the rim, shots that he should have made or attempted to dunk (instead of laying up off the glass), and because of the positioning, teams were grabbing the defensive board and creating fast break opportunities without Robinson and Withey getting back in time. There are a lot of KU fans that probably don't like hearing it, since they all love Robinson and think the world of him because of his story...but he did not play like one of the best players in college basketball during this tournament. Not when you consider the physical advantages he has had over his opponents. Withey is the guy that shut down Sullinger, and he also shut down Davis on the offensive end. He's the one that anchored our defense, and I can argue that he made rebounding much easier for Thomas Robinson as well, usually boxing out the better rebounders and allowing Robinson to manhandle the "smaller" big man. I hope Taylor goes undrafted, though. I haven't really liked his play all season long. He was turning the ball over far too many times at one point, almost playing like he didn't give a damn about the team...and after being a guy that I didn't mind pulling up for three every once in a while, he turned into Andre [expletive]ing Miller from behind the arc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownborn Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) Congrats to Kentucky and to coach Cal for finally winning him a national championship. Kansas played good but started the game real slow IMO but I'm happy that T-Rob at least made it to the Championship game especially after what he had to deal with all of last year. Edited April 3, 2012 by htownborn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built Ford Tough Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 The missed floaters were killing us. Every single floater that went up, I expected it to hit the highest part of the backboard, and it usually did. Johnson, Taylor...they were throwing them up so high, and sometimes so fast, that they would bounce high off the glass and hard enough to barely graze the front of the rim on the way back down. Definitely. I was waiting for the floater that ended up being launched over the backboard and was somewhat disapointed when it didn't happen. I've had a problem with Robinson the entire tournament, not just tonight. He shot 39% against those first five teams of the tourney, leading up to this game (where he shot 35%). A great deal of those misses were near or under the rim, shots that he should have made or attempted to dunk (instead of laying up off the glass), and because of the positioning, teams were grabbing the defensive board and creating fast break opportunities without Robinson and Withey getting back in time. I agree that he didn't have a great tournament and was an inefficient player, but I thought given the matchup and attention he had in this game that he played about as well as you could've hoped for. Davis is just such a force down low defensively, Jones has the size and length to bother him and he was very rarely guarded with single coverage. He always had at least Davis shading over on him. He certainly could've played better and did miss some easy shots, but I thought he did about as well as realisitcally possible tonight. There are a lot of KU fans that probably don't like hearing it, since they all love Robinson and think the world of him because of his story...but he did not play like one of the best players in college basketball during this tournament. Not when you consider the physical advantages he has had over his opponents. Withey is the guy that shut down Sullinger, and he also shut down Davis on the offensive end. He's the one that anchored our defense, and I can argue that he made rebounding much easier for Thomas Robinson as well, usually boxing out the better rebounders and allowing Robinson to manhandle the "smaller" big man. Agreed on both accounts. Robinson struggled a large portion of the tournament and Withey did a fantastic job of anchoring the defense. I don't believe they get by UNC without Withey's presence in that Triangle and 2 defense during the 2nd half. They certainly don't get past OSU without him completely shutting down Sullinger. I hope Taylor goes undrafted, though. I haven't really liked his play all season long. He was turning the ball over far too many times at one point, almost playing like he didn't give a damn about the team...and after being a guy that I didn't mind pulling up for three every once in a while, he turned into Andre [expletive]ing Miller from behind the arc. The thing about Taylor that bugs me is that he has many of the physical traits you would want in a player. Good ball handling, can get into the paint, solid athleticism, above average shooter (although like you said, awful in the tournament), but he just makes so many stupid mistakes out there that is completely ruins all the good things he brings to the table. I honestly think if you put a decent basketball IQ, not even a superb one like a Kendall Marshall or Aaron Craft, but somebody like Lorenzo Brown and you have a top 15-20 pick in the draft. I know it sucks to come this far and lose, but looking at it from a different view point, I would imagine this season would have to be considered a success given the expectations at the start of the season. I didn't think Kansas would do as poorly as many people thought and did think they had the potential to be a #4 seed and possibly make a run to the Sweet Sixteen or, if given a favourable bracket, the Elite Eight, but I never thought they would make it to the National Championship and give Kentucky a scare in the final few minutes. It really was a great season in what was expected to be a relative down year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted April 3, 2012 Author Owner Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 The year was pretty awkward for us. Before the first game, the Kansas State fans were talking crazy...about how they were going to win the Big 12, and how we would finish near the middle of the pack, how we were rebuilding, etc. Now, we just finished up with the championship game, and K-State fell early in the tourney and lost Frank Martin to SC (and get Weber, lol). Funny how things work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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