Multi-Billionaire Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 He's still a 20 and 10 player... can someone fill me in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viral Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Horrible defense, jacker/ballhog, and personality issues. I think if it wasn't for his huge contract, he'd be valuable though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 20 10 is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Yeah 20/10 sucks they should just tell him to go to Europe. Nah his only real problem is that he's got one of the worst contracts in the NBA. Like Tim said, if it wasn't for that teams would be willing to give up the D, emotion, drive to win, and personality problems for his talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viral Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Yea, I mean only 4 big men in the NBA got 20/10. Big whoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Yeah just his contract. The fact teams still trade for him proves he is pretty valuable. He is a liability on defense and does tend to take dumb jumpers but other than that hes a very solid player. He was turning into a fan favorite in New York because he was averaging like 25 and 15 for 2 weeks but because of his huge contract that doesn't terminate in 2010 he had to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) I posted this idea on a Nuggets forum we acquire Zach for Kenyon Martin and barely escaped out of the forum alive... I mean he can't be that bad?!? I mean Sheed was also this Jail Blazer before he was acquired by Pistons and he changed... my idea was if Zach was surrounded by good characters and playing for contenders, he too can change. Would you take a chance on him if you can trade for him cheap? Edited June 29, 2009 by Snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted June 29, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Just his contract? The dude is a headcase. He is a very poor decision-maker, a poor defensive player, rarely in shape and he is one elbow away from actually breaking someone's jaw with a right hook. I've seen too much of Randolph already, playing against him as much as we do. It's far from a privilege watching him ruin any chemistry the Clippers and the Blazers have had in the past. His contract sucks, but his play is worse. If I were to take a stab at it, he's probably the worst 20/10 player I've seen in this decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 ^Ok thanks for the advice I rarely watch him to be honest, now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted June 29, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 To be honest, I would be a very happy person if the Nuggets traded Martin for Randolph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 lol you wish well if it happens though, I wouldn't really pull hairs until I see for myself how bad he is. I believe he can change... I remember he destroyed Mavs in playoffs when he was still on Blazers, Sheed was injured and he was forced to start... down 0-3, they became the first team to force a Game 7 I think... Mavs were #2 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Knick Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Well the Knicks put a decent lineup around him...he didn't play much defense. He produces, but it doesn't seem like he has lots of chemistry with the other players on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland's Finest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 He's still a 20 and 10 player... can someone fill me in? He's a bum, gets in trouble, shoots too many long-range shots and is very unpredictable in that he can hold the ball too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 He is a whiny non-defensive mess with a mammoth sized contract. Teams tend to keep their distance from him. He is a team chemistry killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcstarheel Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 His offensive production is mired by all the output he puts out to get it. The bad output at that. Then you see him resting on the defensive end and you wonder what you were thinking when you traded for him. He would need to be on a team with an alpha-dog veteran that wouldn't put up with his on-court and off-court crap. Someone that isn't going to let him just lolligag on the court and then go eat some cookies after the game. He'll never be a winner in this league if that doesn't happen for his betterment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Point taken... I'm not convinced he is all bad people make him out to be. I still remember he put like 25 and 10 against Mavs in the playoffs as a Blazer... back then when Sheed was on the team too (injured) and he had to replace him. I think all of his lackadaisical attitude is because he was playing for a non-contending team. If you can put 20 and 10 you must be doing something right. It's just how to steer him to be more of a team player and maybe winning situation can change him. It's still a dice to roll, but I'd pull the trigger to get him, too bad he's dealt already. I mean if it fails you can always find the Grizz to discuss about swapping for Quentin Richardson Too bad it's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artesticle Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) I think he was good before signing his big contract. He won MIP and the Blazers organization were campaigning for him to play in the Allstar Game. But after the contract, it all went down hill. Everybody already summed up his game perfectly. He's a perfect example of why stats don't tell the whole story. Edited July 3, 2009 by phiLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 This is like saying what is so bad about Starbary. They are both cancers to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 ^Not really, if you see Marbury, he has changed. He said he was going to accept a reduced role, I thought it'd be hogwash but he proved it by his stay with the C's. Not getting in the way of the offense, looked to pass first, shoot later, he was everything he said he was going to be. The difference is, Randolph has never indicated/ promised he'd be a team player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universe Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Two words: Born loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminati Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 His porous shot selection, he doesn't even fight for good position which is the most annoying thing about him. He's a black hole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWhiTex34 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I would not want Randolph near my team idgaf what his contract is. I wouldn't take him for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobeedoo Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I think we have said at least 100 times that Randolph is a cancer and black hole on offensive. but. to add onto the pressing issue of Zachary Randolph. The Grizzlies have no future with him! I would rather have a David Lee or Millsap than this old sack of crap. Imagine. A front court of Gasol, Thabeet and Lee/Millsap paired along high flying wingmen in Gay and Mayo. THEN a rock steady PG in Conley. Once again Chris Wallace, you have proven why you are the worst GM in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 lol...What's so bad about ZBO? Hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deestillballin Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 He's a bum, gets in trouble, shoots too many long-range shots and is very unpredictable in that he can hold the ball too long. So true at that last line. Thats whats really bad about him. True enough hes 20 / 10 when you jack up shots thats very possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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