Diabetes & Electrosensitivity

[Jesse The Body]

 

 

 

Long ass article, if you are interested read it and let me know what you think of it: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/18/microwave-hazards.aspx

[Real Deal]

No.

 

Case #1: He was out camping and active. Sitting on your ass, in front of a computer all day, means no activity + stress...and that contributes to the high blood sugars. Simply setting up a tent will lower blood sugars.

 

Case #2: Walking/running without any equipment is going to run your blood sugars down much faster. "Assisted walking/running" (treadmill) will not, and I would love to know what that person's blood sugar was before getting on the treadmill to begin with, and how much of an energy drink was consumed during both tests, as well as what that person ate hours before AND how much insulin was taken, as well as WHERE the insulin was injected.

 

If the treadmill was turned up, and it was an intense workout...then adrenaline was created, probably too much, and that will bring your blood sugars up. Playing basketball at a VERY high level raises my sugars, then they plummet an hour or so later. Adrenaline is sugar in the blood.

 

I'm going to stop right there...because the paragraph above pretty much explains why all of this is hilarious to me.

 

If there was any outside interference due to "dirty electricity" relating to blood sugars, it would be consistent with all T1 diabetics. You have to understand just how insulin works, and how the pancreas operates, to figure that one out. I work all morning on my computer...and my blood sugars do not move unless I'm really stressed (and then, they elevate). At night, I'm playing basketball, and they will lower significantly.

 

Now, with that as a constant (at least for me, given my routine...not everyone does that), I can take an insulin shot in the same exact spot (say, my leg), and that insulin shot does not work as effectively because of lack of absorption. ALREADY, I have no idea what's going to happen with my blood sugars.

 

Then, consider the difference between eating carbs, and eating protein, for breakfast. Significant.

 

For some people, a piece of candy (let's say two Starbursts) will elevate sugars quite a bit. For me, very little change, doesn't matter if I'm by a computer or running at the park.

 

I love the Case #4 study, too...funny. So, she admits that the blood sugars actually decreased significantly while in the hospital, around dirty electricity. That's because those sugars were controlled by an increased amount of insulin. So what happens to this 12-year old when he gets home? His blood sugars fall even more...and do you want to know why? It's the same reason mine did: I started moving around. She even stated he was taking MORE insulin, which is funny. Eventually, I wasn't in a hospital bed for five days, being "regulated" by diabetes specialists. My bedroom was upstairs, and I was FAR more active in my second and third weeks of being home (because I was less nervous about my insulin)...which led to even more low blood sugars.

 

When a hospital gives you a specific amount of insulin to take, they do it while you're on your back, at your least active point. Once you get home, you have to decrease every dose, or eat much more. It's that simple.

 

He had more sugar pills (whatever those may be)? Sure he did, because his blood sugar was dropping to very low ranges at any given point of the day. Normally, diabetics don't eat sugar pills...they control their sugars by diet, insulin, and exercise. If your blood sugar is consistently good, you use protein to keep it at a normal range, and carbs (food carbs, from meals and snacks) to keep them from falling.

 

This lady didn't even pronounce diabetes correctly near the end of her video. She didn't consider ALL factors that control blood sugars. She talks about brittle diabetes (which few people have, by the way)...but that's exactly what I have, brittle Type 1 diabetes, and as a person who has been "case-studying" for 19 years now (since I got this when I was 10), I'm pretty sure she's full of shit.

[Jesse The Body]

No.

 

Case #1: He was out camping and active. Sitting on your ass, in front of a computer all day, means no activity + stress...and that contributes to the high blood sugars. Simply setting up a tent will lower blood sugars.

 

Case #2: Walking/running without any equipment is going to run your blood sugars down much faster. "Assisted walking/running" (treadmill) will not, and I would love to know what that person's blood sugar was before getting on the treadmill to begin with, and how much of an energy drink was consumed during both tests, as well as what that person ate hours before AND how much insulin was taken, as well as WHERE the insulin was injected.

 

If the treadmill was turned up, and it was an intense workout...then adrenaline was created, probably too much, and that will bring your blood sugars up. Playing basketball at a VERY high level raises my sugars, then they plummet an hour or so later. Adrenaline is sugar in the blood.

 

I'm going to stop right there...because the paragraph above pretty much explains why all of this is hilarious to me.

 

If there was any outside interference due to "dirty electricity" relating to blood sugars, it would be consistent with all T1 diabetics. You have to understand just how insulin works, and how the pancreas operates, to figure that one out. I work all morning on my computer...and my blood sugars do not move unless I'm really stressed (and then, they elevate). At night, I'm playing basketball, and they will lower significantly.

 

Now, with that as a constant (at least for me, given my routine...not everyone does that), I can take an insulin shot in the same exact spot (say, my leg), and that insulin shot does not work as effectively because of lack of absorption. ALREADY, I have no idea what's going to happen with my blood sugars.

 

Then, consider the difference between eating carbs, and eating protein, for breakfast. Significant.

 

For some people, a piece of candy (let's say two Starbursts) will elevate sugars quite a bit. For me, very little change, doesn't matter if I'm by a computer or running at the park.

 

I love the Case #4 study, too...funny. So, she admits that the blood sugars actually decreased significantly while in the hospital, around dirty electricity. That's because those sugars were controlled by an increased amount of insulin. So what happens to this 12-year old when he gets home? His blood sugars fall even more...and do you want to know why? It's the same reason mine did: I started moving around. She even stated he was taking MORE insulin, which is funny. Eventually, I wasn't in a hospital bed for five days, being "regulated" by diabetes specialists. My bedroom was upstairs, and I was FAR more active in my second and third weeks of being home (because I was less nervous about my insulin)...which led to even more low blood sugars.

 

When a hospital gives you a specific amount of insulin to take, they do it while you're on your back, at your least active point. Once you get home, you have to decrease every dose, or eat much more. It's that simple.

 

He had more sugar pills (whatever those may be)? Sure he did, because his blood sugar was dropping to very low ranges at any given point of the day. Normally, diabetics don't eat sugar pills...they control their sugars by diet, insulin, and exercise. If your blood sugar is consistently good, you use protein to keep it at a normal range, and carbs (food carbs, from meals and snacks) to keep them from falling.

 

This lady didn't even pronounce diabetes correctly near the end of her video. She didn't consider ALL factors that control blood sugars. She talks about brittle diabetes (which few people have, by the way)...but that's exactly what I have, brittle Type 1 diabetes, and as a person who has been "case-studying" for 19 years now (since I got this when I was 10), I'm pretty sure she's full of shit.

 

 

 

Yeah awesome, I wanted you responds on this and yeah you gave a quite of a responds. So in other words you think this is all bullshit? Also from what I've heard Placebo Pill (Sugar pill) apparently can 'cure' any illness haha. Which I did so google searching and how that that it's quite bullshit, and it doesn't do anything. It just tricks you're mind in to thinking you are 'cure' or whatever but you really aren't.

[Real Deal]

Yeah awesome, I wanted you responds on this and yeah you gave a quite of a responds. So in other words you think this is all bullshit? Also from what I've heard Placebo Pill (Sugar pill) apparently can 'cure' any illness haha. Which I did so google searching and how that that it's quite bullshit, and it doesn't do anything. It just tricks you're mind in to thinking you are 'cure' or whatever but you really aren't.

Nah...the sugar pill is probably a glucose tablet, in this case. I don't think anyone would eat 12 placebo pills in 4 days, or 125 in 16 days (eight a day). That sounds more consistent with trying to control low blood sugars.

 

With that said, if the kid is eating eight tablets a day, he's getting rocked with low blood sugars, and once again, that falls in line with being much more active, yet taking the same amount of insulin the hospital put you on WHILE you were stuck in a room and on a bed for a week (and according to her, again, he actually increased his insulin, which sounds stupid).

[Jesse The Body]

Damn dude after reading the first post I didn't have time to reply totally on it. And I would like to say people that are diabetics. You guys really have a hard life to live, and people like me just take life to grant don't thinking about taking this pill, or checking blood levels to see if you are okay and etc... Man I just think it would be really hard to do what you do man.

 

I know you aren't fat so you cannot have diabetes cause of that. I'm assuming this comes from your genetics?

[Real Deal]

Damn dude after reading the first post I didn't have time to reply totally on it. And I would like to say people that are diabetics. You guys really have a hard life to live, and people like me just take life to grant don't thinking about taking this pill, or checking blood levels to see if you are okay and etc... Man I just think it would be really hard to do what you do man.

 

I know you aren't fat so you cannot have diabetes cause of that. I'm assuming this comes from your genetics?

They really had no idea why I had it. I wasn't born with diabetes, and nobody in my family has had it before me, so there's really no answer. That's one of the reasons why it's so hard to find a cure. The electrosensitivity idea just doesn't work, though...because you can take someone like me, a Type 1 insulin-dependent (absolutely no pancreas function) who has to rule out the hereditary idea, the overweight issue, and because my blood sugars are not connected to "dirty electricity," that as well...so does this lady have a fourth type of diabetes?

 

Back to basics. One is insulin-dependent (like me...I take around 3-4 injections a day, 4-5 fingerpricks a day as well), the other has a somewhat working pancreas. That would be your two types. Any other "type" should have nothing to do with the causes of diabetes, because if these two types (three, in her mind) did...well, I'm the brittle diabetic that was left out in the dark.

 

For all she knows, my pancreas may have failed me when I was 10 from a high amount of sucrose. Could have been tied in with another problem I had no knowledge of.

 

I know she's among those trying to find an answer, but to me, it's a waste of time when she's doing these case studies so irresponsibly. A diabetes specialist would crush her theory pretty damn quick, especially if it takes a regular guy like me minutes to dissect her "findings" and every corner she cuts to sound legitimate.

[NomarFachix]

I wasn't born with diabetes, and nobody in my family has had it before me, so there's really no answer.

It's the virus, man. The virus.

[Real Deal]

It's the virus, man. The virus.

I was always convinced it was the cinnamon rolls my grandpa would bring me every single day. I think I ate them every day for about 3-4 years, then suddenly stopped, and a month later, I was a diabetic.

 

I was so convinced, I told all of the nurses when I was 10, and I even argued with my doctor, lol.

[NomarFachix]

Cinnamon rolls or pecan pinwheels?

 

 

Shannon still tells me it's all the soda I drank in high school.. haha I'm not sure how much I can really argue.

 

..but it's the virus, dammit.

[Real Deal]

Cinnamon rolls or pecan pinwheels?

 

LOL what the hell...

[Cobb]

I was always convinced it was the cinnamon rolls my grandpa would bring me every single day. I think I ate them every day for about 3-4 years, then suddenly stopped, and a month later, I was a diabetic.

 

I was so convinced, I told all of the nurses when I was 10, and I even argued with my doctor, lol.

How did you find out?

[Real Deal]

How did you find out?

Over time, I was dehydrated quite a bit...but what made everyone concerned was when I drank about 3 liters of Dr. Pepper during a Thanksgiving afternoon. That's quite a lot for anyone, but I was only 10.

 

My mom's friend was married to a diabetic, and she suspected it, so she brought over a blood glucose machine and tested me, and my sugar was 369...which is pretty high for your average person.

[NomarFachix]

My mom's friend was married to a diabetic, and she suspected it, so she brought over a blood glucose machine and tested me, and my sugar was 369...which is pretty high for your average person.

My sister in law had one, tested me, and it read "Hi", haha. Hospital read me in the 600's. Can't imagine what 369 feels like at 10 years old.

[Real Deal]

My sister in law had one, tested me, and it read "Hi", haha. Hospital read me in the 600's. Can't imagine what 369 feels like at 10 years old.

I would wake up in the middle of the night, go into the bathroom, and literally suck water from the faucet because I was THAT thirsty. I didn't have time to go into the kitchen to get a glass, fill it up, drink it and refill.

 

It had me tired all the time, too...but the crazy thing was, when I became an idiot in HS (just not caring), and all I ever took was my Lantus (didn't take a Humalog shot for years), never checked my blood sugar but 3-4 times a year, and ran it possibly in the 1,000's, I felt just fine because I was growing used to it being that high.

 

Looking back, I just can't believe how stupid I was. I was running in overdrive. I ate anything and everything, and because I was in HS and growing by the minute, I was downing thousands of calories, drinking bottles of Gatorade, whatever...without having to worry about my weight, because my body was starving for insulin so much, it was basically burning the fat right off of my body.

 

That huge step back to regulation, bringing my blood sugars back down to normal, was all due to Jessica. Months later...boom. Blindness took both my eyes, and more than likely, it was from my body struggling to adjust so quickly...the actual pressure my blood was pumping into those small vessels into my eyes, just how hard my body was working, and once it realized it didn't have to do that anymore, it was too late.

[Jesse The Body]

Damn man that is so insane I give you a lot of props. I just cannot imagine myself going through all that, it would be very difficult. What do you think of High Fructose Corn Syrup? I've heard that is 'another' cause of diabetes and also if the women is pregnant and intakes a lot of high fructose corn syrup, the child is at a higher chance for autism?

[Nitro]

Sugar and high fructose corn syrup don't give you diabetes...what gives you diabetes is genetics and things like obesity, which is often aided by a poor, high sugar diet so people put 2 and 2 together.

[Jesse The Body]

Sugar and high fructose corn syrup don't give you diabetes...what gives you diabetes is genetics and things like obesity, which is often aided by a poor, high sugar diet so people put 2 and 2 together.

 

 

So are you saying sugar does give you diabetes or it doesn't?

[Nitro]

So are you saying sugar does give you diabetes or it doesn't?

 

It doesn't. What I'm saying is obesity and overall bad health does, and people with obesity generally have a diet that's high in sugar.

[Jesse The Body]

It doesn't. What I'm saying is obesity and overall bad health does, and people with obesity generally have a diet that's high in sugar.

 

What if they are obese and do not have a high sugar intake, would they still have diabetes or not?

[Lkr]

What if they are obese and do not have a high sugar intake, would they still have diabetes or not?

you act like it is a certainty that someone will have diabetes under conditions. it is possible

[Jesse The Body]

you act like it is a certainty that someone will have diabetes under conditions. it is possible

 

 

I just want to know if sugar plays a role in getting diabetes, which I know a lot of people think it does. That's all.

[Nitro]

I just want to know if sugar plays a role in getting diabetes, which I know a lot of people think it does. That's all.

 

To answer your previous question, they can, but being obese doesn't always equate to having diabetes. However, it is a condition that puts a person at high risk to get it. They may be obese with a low sugar intake, but their obesity could put them at risk for a chronic, high blood sugar count regardless. If they do end up getting diabetes, their diet may keep them on the low end of diabetes, but if they have days where they eat a good amount of sugar it could send their condition into overdrive, whereas with other people it won't.

 

I'm sure Real Deal is a lot more schooled on the subject and can give better answers.

[Real Deal]

Well, the poor diet and genetics are the general causes, of course...but a few doctors want to expand on that. I think, if someone like me ends up with diabetes, someone immediately points to genetics...and that's just through process of elimination.

 

The truth is, over the years, specialists have been digging to try and find connections. They've considered sugar shock...a certain sugar (such as sucrose) that is consumed far too much over time, or in a set amount of time, that inevitably sends your pancreas into shock. That was always something to consider, but it's so hard to find any consistencies, or to even know if that's the case or not, because it also means you're diving into a poor diet.

 

I mean, what happens if I'm a 10 year old football player, and I'm stuck in the gut with a pretty nasty shoulder, and it does something to me, internally? What if household mold is a problem?

 

Over the years, they have suspected so many things...and to be honest, I would love for them to find out what exactly happened to me, because I definitely don't want my kids, or grandkids, getting it because of me.

[Jesse The Body]

Well, the poor diet and genetics are the general causes, of course...but a few doctors want to expand on that. I think, if someone like me ends up with diabetes, someone immediately points to genetics...and that's just through process of elimination.

 

The truth is, over the years, specialists have been digging to try and find connections. They've considered sugar shock...a certain sugar (such as sucrose) that is consumed far too much over time, or in a set amount of time, that inevitably sends your pancreas into shock. That was always something to consider, but it's so hard to find any consistencies, or to even know if that's the case or not, because it also means you're diving into a poor diet.

 

I mean, what happens if I'm a 10 year old football player, and I'm stuck in the gut with a pretty nasty shoulder, and it does something to me, internally? What if household mold is a problem?

 

Over the years, they have suspected so many things...and to be honest, I would love for them to find out what exactly happened to me, because I definitely don't want my kids, or grandkids, getting it because of me.

 

 

Good stuff man and yeah I bet a lot of stuff the play a role. And I question if they really know what did cause diabetes for you and other of your type, but they just don't want to tell you. And just want to milk money from you?