Lkr Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 ELIZABETH, N.J. -- The NBA is about to act in hopes of stopping the floppers. Spokesman Tim Frank said Thursday the league is finalizing procedures to deal with flopping, the art of falling down when little or no contact was made in an effort to trick referees into calling a foul. Frank said the competition committee met two weeks ago and discussed plans that would go in place this season. Commissioner David Stern believes too many players are deceiving referees by flopping and has been seeking a way to properly penalize them. The procedures likely will involve a postgame review of the play by the league office, rather than an official calling an infraction during the game, Frank said. Players likely would be fined if the league determined they flopped. The proposed plan mirrors a "postgame analysis" option Stern discussed after the competition committee met in June. The league already retroactively reviews flagrant fouls to determine if they need to be upgraded or downgraded. "If you continue to do this, you may you have to suffer some consequences," Stern said about flopping during the NBA Finals. "What those exactly should be and what the progression is, is to be decided, because ... we just want to put a stake in the ground that says this is not something that we want to be part of our game, without coming down with a sledgehammer but just doing it in a minimalist way to begin stamping it out. And I think there are ways we can do that and we'll have to wait and see exactly what we come up with." The league's 62-person referee staff is holding its training camp, its first under the leadership of former NBA player and longtime league executive Mike Bantom. Bantom replaced Gen. Ron Johnson as executive vice president of referee operations earlier this month. "I think one of the things that I'd just like to focus on is I think there's a perception out there that kind of throws into question sometimes the competence of our officials and even the integrity of them at times, and I think that that's not true to begin with and unfair, and I want to try and change that perception," said Bantom, who had been the league's senior vice president of player development since 1999. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8433232/nba-finalizing-procedures-penalize-players-flopping about time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Sorry Blale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Good to hear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deestillballin Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Manu, Blake, Dirk(yes I said Dirk) Wade.. get ready for fines.. Too bad Fisher isn't on anytime, he would lead the league in flopping fines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 YEAH!!! 'Bout time indeed!How d'ya like that, Blale?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Great news. It's very hard to judge if someone is flopping during a game, so bet way to stop it is fine them afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) Its going to be interesting to see where the line is drawn. I still don't see why it can't just be a foul if you flop, that would stop players faster than taking money out of their pocket (unless we're talking 100,000 dollar fines here, which I doubt, probably knock a 0 off that). Will the refs [expletive] up occasionally? Of course, but the league is gonna [expletive] up too this way. At least they're not taking money out of players' pockets, which is ridiculous if you ask me. Do you really think small fines are gonna affect superstar calls? Is money really an issue for the floppers (who are 99% star players who are loaded)? This is the worst way they could have gone about this, the more I think about it. Edited September 28, 2012 by Check my Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regime Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 It's better than nothing but players should still be handed in game penalties such as technical fouls. Games should be impacted in some way if guys plan on flopping. Also what kind of fines are up talking about. Does the league really think that $5-10K fines are going to stop players from doing something that they've grown so accustomed to doing, especially those who rake in money left and right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Great news. It's very hard to judge if someone is flopping during a game, so bet way to stop it is fine them afterwards. Sounds good on paper i don't know if its going to work in real life to stop it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 I guess its going to depend on a lot of things. They should probably raise the amount of the fine each time you become a repeat offender. Something like start out at 5k then double it each time you do it again. By the time they've done it 5 times they would be paying an 80k fine, which would probably be enough to stop them from doing it. I feel like the in game calls would be too risky to add. It would be too hard for referees to tell when a player is flopping or not and half the time they would probably make the wrong call. Maybe if they used instant replay to judge whether its a flop or not with under a minute left in the game where it will matters most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artesticle Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Blake+Griffin+Miami+Heat+v+Los+Angeles+Clippers+bTY8I36vrUNl.jpg http://abasketballjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Chris-Paul-Happy-To-Be-Traded-To-Clippers.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) ^ Here's a more recent pic of their reaction: http://i.imgur.com/1XbP2.png Edited September 29, 2012 by Sħãlïq̵' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Flopping penalties announced: Violation 1: Warning Violation 2: $5,000 fineViolation 3: $10,000 fineViolation 4: $15,000 fineViolation 5: $30,000 fine If a player violates the anti-flopping rule six times or more, he will be subject to discipline that is reasonable under the circumstances, including an increased fine and/or suspension. The league will announce at a later date a separate set of penalties for flopping that will apply during the playoffs. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/20443201/nba-formally-announces-new-flopping-rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballorama Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I wouldve preferred techincal fouls assessed but.. good enough lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 They said in-game the refs aren't going to be assessing anything. This is all tape review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Flopping penalties announced: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/20443201/nba-formally-announces-new-flopping-ruleThose numbers seem fair... you'd think that after a $15,000 or $30,000 fine you'd learn to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooner Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Blake Griffin will be broke by the All-Star break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Flopping penalties announced: Violation 1: WarningViolation 2: $5,000 fineViolation 3: $10,000 fineViolation 4: $15,000 fineViolation 5: $30,000 fine If a player violates the anti-flopping rule six times or more, he will be subject to discipline that is reasonable under the circumstances, including an increased fine and/or suspension. The league will announce at a later date a separate set of penalties for flopping that will apply during the playoffs. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/20443201/nba-formally-announces-new-flopping-rule They should probably raise the amount of the fine each time you become a repeat offender. Something like start out at 5k then double it each time you do it again. By the time they've done it 5 times they would be paying an 80k fine, which would probably be enough to stop them from doing it. Looks like I called it :glasses: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Blake Griffin will be broke by the All-Star break.I'd say a month before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 NBA Issues First Flopping Warnings of Season to Barea and Sloan It was only a matter of time that someone would be the ‘first’ to fall victim to the new NBA flopping rules. After reviewing the film, the league has issued two “official warnings” to Wolves J.J. Barea, and Cavaliers Donald Sloan for their respective flops last Friday. After receiving a flopping warning your next offense then becomes a fine of $5000. Each subsequent offense the fine increases significantly, and after a few the league can even decide to suspend you from play. No wonder the players union is filing a grievance with the league about the fines.There has been a lot of debate not only about the new rule, but also about which players would be the most frequently fined under this new rule. Check out the incidents which got the NBA’s attention first.Source Wolves J.J. Barea throws his head back violently after a ghost slap from Kings sophomore Jimmer Fredette: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcHt1hrYe_I Cavs' Donald Sloan throws his body around wildly after bumping into Mohammed and Hinrich: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_r4JcYXAp0 The NBA need to take a closer look at the GSW @ LAC game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 NBA flopping update: While watching the ABC broadcast of the Heat-Knicksgame on Sunday, I was fascinated by the graphic that ABC showedconcerning the progression of flopping since the institution of theNBA's new flopping review process. The graphic, which I'm reconstructingfrom memory and from other news reports, conveyed essentially this:2012 Playoffs -- 70 flops in 79 gamesNov 2012 -- 7 flopsDec 2012 -- 7 flopsJan 2013 -- 3 flopsFeb 2013 -- No flopsStu Jackson of the NBA recently spoke to the media to promote thesenumbers, the message being -- the new rules are working, we are riddingthe game of flopping. Yay NBA!But does anyone other than me notice a basic disconnect in theinformation that ABC put on screen? There was no flopping rule duringthe 2012 playoffs, so to say that there were 70 flops during the 2012playoffs begs a pretty significant question. How were there 70 flops?Who counted them? What was the definition? At the very least we needsome sort of explanation at to what the 70 number represents. Presumablysomeone reviewed all of those 79 games and determined that there were70 instances that WOULD have received a flop warning under the currentsystem. But in looking for the origin of this data, I have not seen anexplanation of the 2012 playoff flopping figure. The closest I've seenis from a USA Today storyby Jeff Zillgut which states "during last season's playoffs ... therewere more than 70 flops in 79 games - almost one a playoff game - Jackson said."(Emphasis added.) Jackson said. That's some good reporting, Zillgut.Obviously the NBA has a conflict of interest here, and it makes the rulelook good for them to say that it has reduced flopping significantly.Just reporting what the league office tells you, the league office thatdetermines these policies in the first place, is more than a littlelazy. (...)http://www.clipsnation.com/2013/3/4/4064474/nba-flopping-update-blake-griffin-la-clippers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatreserve Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 i miss flopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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