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Its like a completely different man speaking. I guess that's what happens when you have someone write speeches for you and you get to read it off a teleprompter.

I'm assuming you think that's what they did for him in 2008, when he kicked the shit out of McCain.

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if I had a dollar for every time Romney raised his arms and lowered them to signal him lowering taxes on the middle class.......

 

i'd be this guy

 

http://www.retepsrevenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/warren_buffett.gif

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Trollolol

 

Look at 2:19 when Romney pulls out notes and puts them on the podium, clear violation of debate rules :lol:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEBwp2IAdMA

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/10/18357-dumbest-thing-youll-read-today-liberals-claiming-romney-cheated-at-debate-with-his-handkerchief/

 

"Liberals: Obama lost. Period. Now stop making up excuses as to why he lost and move to the next one. It’s the best chance you have. Focusing on a handkerchief and trying to contrive a conspiracy theory of how Romney cheated only makes you all look stupid and ignorant."

 

http://www.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/paper2.jpeg

http://www.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/anigif_enhanced-buzz-3268-1349454186-8.gif

 

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/10/18357-dumbest-thing-youll-read-today-liberals-claiming-romney-cheated-at-debate-with-his-handkerchief/

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Idk why anyone really cares where Romney put his notes..everything he said was pretty much a lie or went against his campaign for the past year. It was like Obama said, everything he pointed out Romeny never heard of. All of a sudden he had a strong dislike of millionaires, he has a health plan, he loves teachers and we need a ton more of them...

 

this is the same guy whose party is the complete opposite and has been running on prettty much the opposite

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Honest question, do you liberals even understand why Romney is paying a "lower percentage on taxes" or even what he he paying a lower percentage on?

 

I know you don't and will go try and look it up now because you don't even know, but he's not paying 15% on his income like you fools like to believe, but rather investments where he's risking his money.

 

Anyways, Obama is probably going to win again, and I'm just interested in what the excuses are going to be WHEN he fails again.

 

I'm sure JYD and company are making them up as I type.

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Honest question, do you liberals even understand why Romney is paying a "lower percentage on taxes" or even what he he paying a lower percentage on?

 

I know you don't and will go try and look it up now because you don't even know, but he's not paying 15% on his income like you fools like to believe, but rather investments where he's risking his money.

I'm not even sure if anyone cares about that now. At least I don't, never really did (don't think I've ever mentioned that). Don't give a shit what he's paying...that statement above doesn't change what his tax plan will be, and why it will be bad for the middle class, and how he avoided that during the debate.

 

I know you don't want to admit it, but Romney went away from everything he has been preaching for months now during that debate. He sounded good, but at the cost of being a hypocrite. Didn't sound like the same Mitt Romney you've been supporting, and deep down, I know you are aware of that, because some of the biggest conservatives I know feel that way.

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Didn't sound like the same Mitt Romney you've been supporting, and deep down, I know you are aware of that

Romney's been a flip flopper for as long as he's been in politics, this is same old Mitt for sure. His policies change more frequently than my underwear does.

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Honest question, do you liberals even understand why Romney is paying a "lower percentage on taxes" or even what he he paying a lower percentage on?

 

I know you don't and will go try and look it up now because you don't even know, but he's not paying 15% on his income like you fools like to believe, but rather investments where he's risking his money.

 

Anyways, Obama is probably going to win again, and I'm just interested in what the excuses are going to be WHEN he fails again.

 

I'm sure JYD and company are making them up as I type.

I don't care about his tax returns if that's what you are referring to...

 

And iMan is right. He's a flip flopper. I think Romney really is closer to the center than the Republican party or his campaign wants to run on...but if he praises Obama for anything (ie. health care reform), he gets absolutely torched by his party and base.

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Romney's been a flip flopper for as long as he's been in politics, this is same old Mitt for sure. His policies change more frequently than my underwear does.

Yeah, but his general ideas have been the same over the last month or so. For example, his views on education are one reason why my girlfriend hates him...yet, you wouldn't have recognized that if you listened to him during the debate. He's ready to hire a few million teachers, all of a sudden.

 

Guess it's no different from Ryan, who was getting pounded by conservatives when he seemed to back away from his Medicare reform plan.

 

Like I said earlier, I actually think Ron Paul would have had a better chance, only because he would've pulled votes away from Obama + raked in most of the Republican votes just because he'd be up against BO...even if many consider him a nutcase (like I do).

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Yeah the past month to the debate was a flip flop for sure. But that's been his MO his entire tenure, so it doesn't surprise me (nor should it surprise anyone).

 

His policies change by year. Imagine that nightmare if he was actually running the country.

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Yeah the past month to the debate was a flip flop for sure. But that's been his MO his entire tenure, so it doesn't surprise me (nor should it surprise anyone).

 

His policies change by year. Imagine that nightmare if he was actually running the country.

like....back when he was running in '94 and said he was Pro Choice...lmao

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like....back when he was running in '94 and said he was Pro Choice...lmao

 

Do you mind telling me if Obama has always been in support of gay marriage? Oh, he hasn't always been? Weird. :lol: .

 

 

When's Obama going to release his school records? You know, the school he attended where nobody even remembers him?

 

 

I'm not against either candidate changing their fews, but changing them daily and often to appeal to voters is different, and I know you think that's exactly what Romney is going, and I don't agree with that. I think Obama has been just as bad, if not much worse on changing his stances.

 

 

Honestly though, what are your excuses going to be if/when our country is no better in four years if Obama is elected again? Are you going to continue to blame it on Bush and the Republican party? Honest question.

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When's Obama going to release his school records? You know, the school he attended where nobody even remembers him?

Do you want his long form birth certificate too?

 

I think Obama has been just as bad, if not much worse on changing his stances.

lollllllll of course you do

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Honestly though, what are your excuses going to be if/when our country is no better in four years if Obama is elected again? Are you going to continue to blame it on Bush and the Republican party? Honest question.

lol what? the country has already improved since four years ago.

 

no one remembers Obama in school? so he lied about all his education as well as being born here?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.112571!/img/httpImage/image.jpg

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lol what? the country has already improved since four years ago.

 

no one remembers Obama in school? so he lied about all his education as well as being born here?

 

 

 

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.112571!/img/httpImage/image.jpg

 

 

The country has not improved since four years ago. It's only gotten worse, and much worse at that.

 

 

 

Oh, look at your boy Obama.

 

Scumbag of peace.

 

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/8/fudging-unemployment-data-for-re-election/

 

 

 

 

Also, I've never been on to say Obama was no born in the U.S., but why won't your "boiiiii" show us his school records? Do they even exist? No one from his "school" even remembers him.

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NATE SILVER: Obama Is Collapsing

 

Obama's odds of winning the re-election have collapsed since the first presidential debate, according to three separate measures:

 

  • Nate Silver's aggregate poll forecast
  • Intrade's prediction market
  • Betfair's prediction market

First, Nate Silver of the New York Times now gives Obama only a 71% chance of reelection. That sounds high, but it's down from 86% a week ago. And Silver says the Romney surge may continue. He says that it's still too early to call the election a "toss-up," but he also says that we may be getting there.

 

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/507549f369beddeb73000000-367-643/nate-silver-obama-odds.png

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nate-silver-obama-is-collapsing-2012-10#ixzz28wFI45qM

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