Sħãlïq™ Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Marcin GORTAT vs DeAndre JORDAN http://i.imgur.com/hOsYq.pngInspired by:Marcin GORTAT: Draft History: 2005 Phoenix Suns, 2nd round, 27th pickCareer Averages: 8.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 0.5 APG, 1.1 BPGBreakdown: Once the backup center for Dwight Howard on the Orlando Magic, Marcin Gortat began to flourish once he was dealt to the Phoenix Suns during the 2010-11 season.Featuring both a solid postgame and the range to knock down a mid-range jump shot, Gortat is coming off of his best NBA season in which he averaged 15.4 PPG and 10.0 RPG. Gortat's larger role in the Valley of the Sun really gave him the opportunity to come to his own. The Polish Hammer's refined and thorough postgame should be studied by the Clippers' young center.DeAndre JORDAN: Draft History: 2008 Los Angeles Clippers, 2nd round, 5th pickCareer Averages: 6.0 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 0.3 APG, 1.5 BPGBreakdown: The onus is really on DeAndre Jordan to make the jump to elite status this season. During the summer, Jordan tightened up his postgame and worked on his woeful free-throw shooting. These offseason adjustments were necessary, but until DJ can find some consistency on a nightly basis, the Clippers will continue to have some trouble at the center position.Compared to the aforementioned players, Jordan is still in a position to control his own destiny. Below is a table of the players organized by the player efficiency rating (PER) of his fourth NBA season. Comparing DeAndre Jordan to Other Notable 2nd Round Big Man Picks in NBA History Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 For some inexplicable reason, I want to say DeAndre Jordan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Overall, Jordan is more talented and when he's on he makes a far bigger impact on both sides of the ball. However, a lot like players like Javale McGee, his play is bi-polar. On a bad day his FT shooting gets horribly exposed, he is not engaged, and his need to go after every block can expose his defensive flaws and lead to easy baskets. Gortat's ceiling isn't as high, but he's more consistent and stable. People tend to underrate his ability, but he is a very capable defender, rebounder and has decent offensive talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Definitely Gortat, he's a more established player, Deandre is very raw right now. Very good pick and roll player, good rebounder, and his offensive repertoire, while not great, is still light years ahead of Jordan. Deandre is a slightly better rebounder, but everything is, Gortat has him beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Definitely Gortat, he's a more established player, Deandre is very raw right now. Very good pick and roll player, good rebounder, and his offensive repertoire, while not great, is still light years ahead of Jordan. Deandre is a slightly better rebounder, but everything is, Gortat has him beat.You'd take Gortat over Jordan? Wow. I'll take Jordan. Although he can be inconsistent, his talent is so much better it's worth the risk. He can be a true game changer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 You'd take Gortat over Jordan? Wow. I'll take Jordan. Although he can be inconsistent, his talent is so much better it's worth the risk. He can be a true game changerSure, take Jordan if you're starting a franchise, but give me Gortat to have the better season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 You'd take Gortat over Jordan? Wow. I'll take Jordan. Although he can be inconsistent, his talent is so much better it's worth the risk. He can be a true game changeriMan nailed it. With Deandre, more often than not, he's hurting you on offense, and as the starting center, I'd at least hope he can play in the fourth quarter (he does not). His upside is high, but I really don't see him ever living up to his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYD Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 iMan nailed it. With Deandre, more often than not, he's hurting you on offense, and as the starting center, I'd at least hope he can play in the fourth quarter (he does not). His upside is high, but I really don't see him ever living up to his contract.Fair enough. I guess it also depends on the make up of your team and who else is on the roster. Jordan can be nice to protect the basket if he's playing on a bad defensive team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I'd take Gortat tbh. Deandre might be the better player soon, but as it stands Gortat is better. Although looking at their preseason numbers is making me second guess that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sħãlïq™ Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) (...) With Deandre, more often than not, he's hurting you on offense, and as the starting center, I'd at least hope he can play in the fourth quarter (he does not). (...)Unless, DeAndre has a breakout year this season which I'm sure of.Always believed he can take it to the next level -- he's shown it in flashes. Only a matter of time before he breaks through. Mad propz to Iavaroni for helplin' him develop them 1-2 post moves (with counters). Still has a looong way to go but I done seen enough to give him the nod over Gortat. Edited October 24, 2012 by Sħãlïq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Only because preseason numbers are irrelevant to me, here are their numbers last season: Gortat Jordan 15.4 PPG 7.4 PPG 10.0 RPG 8.3 RPG 1.5 BPG 2.0 BPG 21.2 PER 16.4 PER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted October 24, 2012 Owner Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Only because preseason numbers are irrelevant to me, here are their numbers last season: Gortat Jordan 15.4 PPG 7.4 PPG 10.0 RPG 8.3 RPG 1.5 BPG 2.0 BPG 21.2 PER 16.4 PERRight, but that's also with Nash making Gortat his go-to guy, which is never, ever a bad thing (no matter who you are). And yes, preseason numbers are also irrelevant to me. Ebanks just dropped 20 in a game a few days ago. He's not starting over Ron. But, regardless, I'm still taking Gortat for one reason: his defense. He's a better on-ball and help defender. I know DeAndre is athletic and can swat shots, but Gortat can handle almost any center down low, no matter the size...and his ability to box out (using his strength) makes up for what Jordan can do athletically. I won't discuss their offensive games because, again, Nash made Gortat his P&R big man, and that's going to get you buckets. DeAndre would have seen his PPG rise as well, if Nash (or even CP3) would have used him that frequently...and even though CP3 is the best PG in the NBA, nobody runs the P&R better than Nash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 even though CP3 is the best PG in the NBA, nobody runs the P&R better than Nash.Eh, they're close enough to where you can make a reasoned judgement on their offensive capabilities from it.. not that I'm disagreeing on Nash being top dog, but Paul isn't far behind at #2. Jordan just simply had (and still has) a much more talented player running it in front of him in Griffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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