Make It Naaaashty Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) It's clear that it's down to AP and Peyton Manning. Both players deserve it but only one can get it. Who do you give the MVP to and why? I'll explain my vote later. Edited December 31, 2012 by Make It Naaaashty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Meyton Panning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth35 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 As much as I want Peyton to get it, i think AP will rewarded with the MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Easily Peterson. There should really be no debate about it, but Manning is the media's love child. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 31, 2012 Owner Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 They were trying to make an argument for JJ Watt during the Houston game, but I just don't see how he'd be able to rack up the votes against a QB and a RB that basically carried their team. Only two defensive players have won the MVP in league history: Alan Page and LT. Huge reach, if you ask me. I'd give it to Peterson, but I think Manning will land the award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Make It Naaaashty Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Added a poll so go ahead and vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I really wish AP gets it but I think Manning will end up winning it. Them nine yards would have locked it up damn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regime Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Co MVP like I said in the gameday thread. You can make a strong case for either guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Co MVP like I said in the gameday thread. You can make a strong case for either guy. Stop being a douche and pick someone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I'd give it to Peterson without hesitation. They were trying to make an argument for JJ Watt during the Houston game. Huge reach, if you ask me. Watt just completed the best defensive season in recent memory. He doesn't stand a chance because of the biased voting catered towards offensive players, but that's not to say he doesn't deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 31, 2012 Owner Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Watt just completed the best defensive season in recent memory. He doesn't stand a chance because of the biased voting catered towards offensive players, but that's not to say he doesn't deserve it.Nah, I wasn't saying he doesn't deserve it, just saying it's a reach to say he'll win because Peterson and Manning are two offensive players who have carried their team like no other (and it helps that both came back from significant surgeries). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Nah, I wasn't saying he doesn't deserve it, just saying it's a reach to say he'll win because Peterson and Manning are two offensive players who have carried their team like no other (and it helps that both came back from significant surgeries).Well I think the argument is warranted, and not a reach, but unfortunately for his phenomenal season, the voting leans a certain way. It's a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Well I think the argument is warranted, and not a reach, but unfortunately for his phenomenal season, the voting leans a certain way. It's a shame. I think if he would have broken Micheal's Strahans record then he would have maybe had a case. Not being a few sacks short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDerozan Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I think if he would have broken Micheal's Strahans record then he would have maybe had a case. Not being a few sacks short.He has a tremendous case, using sacks as an end-all measurement is shallow. But he won't win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I think if I had a vote, I would vote Peyton... honestly, its just too hard not to. AP maybe deserves it more, but I'd vote Peyton. He has the narrative, and its not like he doesn't have MVP stats to back it up. I vote reason for the sole reason that I would feel dirty if I didn't. That's fair right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 He has a tremendous case, using sacks as an end-all measurement is shallow. But he won't win. Im not saying he doesn't have a case, im just saying the case isnt good enough to win it. If he had made the record then imo he would have been right up there with AP and Manning but without the record its just not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownborn Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I think Peterson deserve's it but with the broncos winning HFA I think that may make Peyton a shoo-in to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Tim Tebow took that Broncos team to the playoffs last year. Without Peterson, that's a 4 win Vikings team. That simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Im not saying he doesn't have a case, im just saying the case isnt good enough to win it. If he had made the record then imo he would have been right up there with AP and Manning but without the record its just not good enough.I'm not sure if you're saying he won't win or he doesn't deserve to win. I agree with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Tim Tebow took that Broncos team to the playoffs last year. Without Peterson, that's a 4 win Vikings team. That simple. Pretty sure that team took Tebow to the playoffs. Besides, lets say they really are a 4 win team without AP, they win 6 extra due to him (?). Denver won 5 more games than they did without Peyton last year. "Playoffs" is a bullshit measurement stick... so because Peyton's team is better than excludes him or is used against him? You can make an argument for both, but this is the worst I've seen so far. Going from good to elite should be viewed the same as going from bad to good as far as I am concerned. So no, its no 'that simple'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Most "valuable". So, yes, a team making the playoffs with a shit gimmick at the helm plays against his value to the team. Similarly, taking a top 5 pick team to the playoffs is a testament to your value, which is key to a most valuable player award. The team taking Tebow to the playoffs is exactly my point, lol. Thanks. Peterson just put in the 2nd best rushing season in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 6th in yards, 3rd in TDs against 1st in yards (by ~400 yards) and 3rd in TD. Tremendous supporting cast against shitty talent surrounding Peterson. Honestly, I haven't seen an argument for Peyton that makes sense yet. Easy decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Valuable, best, most impassive.....whatever metric you want to use I would be taking Peterson over Manning right now. The season he has had so far has been nothing short of sensational. Manning has had an excellent season, but Peterson's has been legendary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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