BREAKING NEWS: Michael Vick signs with Eagles

[EastCoastNiner]

  On 8/14/2009 at 10:41 PM, fly3rs18 said:

yeah i agree. whats the difference between a dog and a deer? people go hunting and kill deer all the time. if anything shooting a deer in leg and watching it hobble away is just as bad as fighting dogs.

 

vick should have been in jail, i am not upset about that, but it is flat out stupid for anyone to say that he deserved more time or that he got off easy

 

No, just no.

 

 

When people shoot a deer, the intent is to kill it, so they can eat it, which is 100% LEGAL.

 

Watching dogs that have no choice except to maul each other is not the same as shooting a deer.

 

 

There's a use for killing animals for food, but there's no good use for watching animals suffer by attacking each other when they have no choice at all.

 

 

 

And, I don't necessarily think that Michael Vick got off easy, it's just that other people that commit hanus crimes get off easier sometimes.

[Phightins]

  On 8/14/2009 at 11:40 PM, EastCoastNiner said:

No, just no.

 

 

When people shoot a deer, the intent is to kill it, so they can eat it, which is 100% LEGAL.

 

Watching dogs that have no choice except to maul each other is not the same as shooting a deer.

 

 

There's a use for killing animals for food, but there's no good use for watching animals suffer by attacking each other when they have no choice at all.

 

 

 

And, I don't necessarily think that Michael Vick got off easy, it's just that other people that commit hanus crimes get off easier sometimes.

 

Haha....for the first time in a few weeks I agree 100%.

 

I despise what Michael Vick did, and as a dog owner myself I hate the fact that he is on the team. But as a football fan and an Eagles fan I am willing to forget about all that for 3 hours every Sunday and see what he can do.

[La Bomba]

There are people who kill dear just to chop their head off and put it on their wall. There not eating it and the dear doesn't have the choice of whether to die or not.

[Phightins]

  On 8/14/2009 at 11:45 PM, Poohdini said:

There are people who kill dear just to chop their head off and put it on their wall. There not eating it and the dear doesn't have the choice of whether to die or not.

 

Those people are sick too.

[La Bomba]

  On 8/14/2009 at 11:48 PM, Phightins09 said:

Those people are sick too.

And I'm not saying they are not but ECN is saying the dogs have no choice of fighting or not and the deer are actually used for something useful like eating.

[EastCoastNiner]

  On 8/14/2009 at 11:45 PM, Poohdini said:

There are people who kill dear just to chop their head off and put it on their wall. There not eating it and the dear doesn't have the choice of whether to die or not.

 

Nobody is saying that is right.

[kingfish]

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[Smitty]

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I really wish somebody would add the back cover to this.

[bigdog17k]

Somebody did a really good job with that cover. You can tell it's back when he was a Falcon, jersey numbers are a bit different, and tha old style NFL logo on the ball. But WOW!

[trutrojan8]

  On 8/14/2009 at 10:16 PM, Flash said:

And that's why you need to read up on his case. Vick never killed one dog.

He actually killed 6-8 dogs himself. Read up on the case before you talk.

 

And, even if you don't believe me, he financed it either way. If I pay someone to kill your whole family, that means I should walk the street, right?

[Flash]

  On 8/15/2009 at 4:26 AM, trutrojan8 said:

He actually killed 6-8 dogs himself. Read up on the case before you talk.

 

And, even if you don't believe me, he financed it either way. If I pay someone to kill your whole family, that means I should walk the street, right?

 

Part of the reason he did little time was because he never killed one dog. Even the guys who testified against him admitted that.

 

I seriously cannot believe people are comparing a dog to a human life...unbelievable.

[fly3rs18]

^ you always have the most insane examples that are not even close to the actual situation.

 

 

 

and from a few posts ago to ECN (didnt feel like quoting). i agree about the deer. i tried to use it as an example but it didnt really work out. what i meant though was that it is bad, but it is really not as incredibly serious as some people make it out to be. he deserves this second chance 100%

[Flash]

I don't condone dog fighting or animal cruelty either for the record.. I just don't think it warrants 2 years of jail time. If this were any other person not named Mike Vick they would've done much less time if any.

[trutrojan8]

  On 8/15/2009 at 5:14 AM, Flash said:

I don't condone dog fighting or animal cruelty either for the record.. I just don't think it warrants 2 years of jail time. If this were any other person not named Mike Vick they would've done much less time if any.

Go kill some dogs then. If you are in the exact same situation as Michael Vick, you should be posting tomorrow, no?

[Flash]

  On 8/15/2009 at 5:17 AM, trutrojan8 said:

Go kill some dogs then. If you are in the exact same situation as Michael Vick, you should be posting tomorrow, no?

 

uhh...did you not read where I said I don't condone dog fighting or animal cruelty?

[trutrojan8]

  On 8/15/2009 at 5:26 AM, Flash said:

uhh...did you not read where I said I don't condone dog fighting or animal cruelty?

But dude it's cool. You also said you wouldn't serve any time for it, so there's no risk.

[His Greatness]

  On 8/15/2009 at 5:14 AM, Flash said:

If this were any other person not named Mike Vick they would've done much less time if any.

He ran, financed, and participated in the dog fighting operation — that's some serious felony sh-t. He would've served time regardless of his name.

 

I hope he can revive his career, but he most certainly deserved what he got.

[Flash]

  On 8/15/2009 at 5:32 AM, trutrojan8 said:

But dude it's cool. You also said you wouldn't serve any time for it, so there's no risk.

 

u mad?

[trutrojan8]

  On 8/15/2009 at 5:58 AM, Flash said:

u mad?

So mad. Why the [expletive] would I be mad?

[Flash]

  On 8/15/2009 at 5:59 AM, trutrojan8 said:

So mad. Why the [expletive] would I be mad?

 

Apparently because killing dogs is the same as killing a person. Who knew?

[fly3rs18]

  On 8/15/2009 at 5:48 AM, His Greatness said:

He ran, financed, and participated in the dog fighting operation — that's some serious felony sh-t. He would've served time regardless of his name.

 

I hope he can revive his career, but he most certainly deserved what he got.

 

that is true. nothing is probably gonna happen to just someone who fights dogs, but he was running it himself. that is why it was 2 years instead of way less

[trutrojan8]

  On 8/15/2009 at 6:30 AM, Flash said:

Apparently because killing dogs is the same as killing a person. Who knew?

When did I say that? Just because it's not a human he killed doesn't mean he shouldn't be in jail.

[jl.]

  On 8/15/2009 at 6:30 AM, Flash said:

Apparently because killing dogs is the same as killing a person. Who knew?

 

There's alot more [expletive] humans than dogs. Humans messed up the world far more than Dogs did, Humans started more wars than dogs did, Humans kill more humans than dogs do. Need I go on? Killing them in the manner of which he did whether he did it first hand or through his fighting ring is wrong no matter which way you try to sugarcoat it.

 

Killing is killing regardless of what your killing it just so happens killing a defenceless animal is disgusting and he got what he deserves. I like Vick always did, I like his abilities now but don't have any respect for what he did.

[fly3rs18]

  On 8/15/2009 at 4:48 PM, J.L said:

Humans messed up the world far more than Dogs did, Humans started more wars than dogs did, Humans kill more humans than dogs do.

 

really? i dont even know how to respond to that besides that i hope you are joking because it is absolutely stupid

[Phightins]

I cannot believe what this argument has turned into.

 

Michael Vick did absolutely despicable things...things that words cannot even describe. Is that even really up for argument? What is the point to comparing it to other sick demented things? He went to jail and got what he deserved. Hopefully it changed him. He says it has, and hopefully that is the truth. Does not change the [expletive]ed up things he has done. I will not support him as a human being until he can genuinely prove that he is changed, but I will support him as a football player.