fly3rs18 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 i was so pissed then didnt put it on tv here after the other games ended but the saints did what great teams do. sure they were getting beat all game, but they came back when it mattered and put the redskins away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 btw Saints clinched division with win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Greatness Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 It was 23 yards to ice the game. That's five more yards than an extra point. The overturn was bad, but wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Greatness Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 ^The ball was already on its way out, clear fumble nothing to dispute.His arm was down. Not even close to being indisputable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 His arm was down. Not even close to being indisputable. Thank you, someone who watches football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 6, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 LOL, yeah, we don't watch football. I didn't even see the play, just took a stab in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 LOL, yeah, we don't watch football. I didn't even see the play, just took a stab in the dark. Alright, so it was a fumble, just want to be sure. Did you see a clearer angle I missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobb Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Wow FOX switched it to the Seahawks game with like 1:55 left in the 4th quarter me and my dad were soooo pissed.Yeah, I got mad to. I just went to justin.tv and watched the rest of the game on a live stream in HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 That Robert Meachem TD should have been overturned. Terrible call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 6, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Alright, so it was a fumble, just want to be sure. Did you see a clearer angle I missed?Guess so. http://i48.tinypic.com/o0b5th.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2cqibnc.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Greatness Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Forearm. Hardly incontrovertible video evidence, it's very questionable at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 7, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Wrist, if anything...ball was coming out right before his hand even hit the ground (something had to knock it loose, and it was the hit). I'd be pissed if the Saints won, too, except I'm a Raiders fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveLegit Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I just came back from FedEx field, and I'm extremely upset. What the hell is wrong with Sean Suisham? Seriously? He lost us the game, there's no one else to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Greatness Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Whether it's a forearm or a wrist, it's still down by contact. And the moment the ball was coming out is disputable, that's why it's a questionable reverse. BTW, I'm not pissed, and my favorite team is irrelevant. Don't bring that in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Woo! Brees + Colston + Thomas = mad fantasy numbers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 7, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Whether it's a forearm or a wrist, it's still down by contact. And the moment the ball was coming out is disputable, that's why it's a questionable reverse. BTW, I'm not pissed, and my favorite team is irrelevant. Don't bring that in here.The wrist was down and the ball was already coming out, easy to see even with one eye. It wasn't tucked in right after the hit, very evident in the replays you can watch. If the hit didn't cause the fumble, gravity must have...and that just sounds pretty ridiculous. As for the other comment...just sayin...you sound bitter. No biggie if you aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 7, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Either way, awesome win by the Saints. It's great to see them undefeated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regime Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 You picked up Devin Thomas, wtf?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Greatness Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 The wrist was down and the ball was already coming out, easy to see even with one eye. It wasn't tucked in right after the hit, very evident in the replays you can watch. If the hit didn't cause the fumble, gravity must have...and that just sounds pretty ridiculous. As for the other comment...just sayin...you sound bitter. No biggie if you aren't.The argument is whether he lost possession of the ball before or after his forearm is down. We're looking at a split-second difference here, not indisputable evidence, and it wasn't a very easy call considering how much time they spent looking at it in the booth. Announcers thought he was down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted December 7, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 The argument is whether he lost possession of the ball before or after his forearm is down. We're looking at a split-second difference here, not indisputable evidence, and it wasn't a very easy call considering how much time they spent looking at it in the booth. Announcers thought he was down.One announcer did, the other didn't. The argument about losing possession before or after his forearm touched is based heavily on what knocked the ball out, if logic reasoning is used. He didn't just let the ball go, did he? The hit caused it to fumble, and the ball was out of his hand and below his other forearm right before his wrist touched, as seen in the still pictures I provided. Otherwise, gravity caused the ball to fumble from his tuck, and based on the still pictures, the ball was stuck on his jersey using some sort of glue or powerful static, which probably means he still had possession. The first explanation makes sense. The second doesn't. The booth and refs saw what I did, and that's why they reversed it. I'll believe those guys before I take into account anything an announcer says, especially when it was clear as day for me when viewing the stills. Not going to change your mind anyways, but that doesn't really matter...it was called the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Greatness Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 One announcer did, the other didn't. The argument about losing possession before or after his forearm touched is based heavily on what knocked the ball out, if logic reasoning is used. He didn't just let the ball go, did he? The hit caused it to fumble, and the ball was out of his hand and below his other forearm right before his wrist touched, as seen in the still pictures I provided. Otherwise, gravity caused the ball to fumble from his tuck, and based on the still pictures, the ball was stuck on his jersey using some sort of glue or powerful static, which probably means he still had possession. The first explanation makes sense. The second doesn't. The booth and refs saw what I did, and that's why they reversed it. I'll believe those guys before I take into account anything an announcer says, especially when it was clear as day for me when viewing the stills. Not going to change your mind anyways, but that doesn't really matter...it was called the right way.A fumble is when you lose possession of the football. The ball can move around in his hand forever but if it's not out, it's not a fumble. That's why it's such a hard call. Did he fumble before or after his forearm was down? Simultaneously? My point is that if there isn't definitive, conclusive evidence, then you don't reverse the call on the field. And you can't honestly tell me that there was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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