Years Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) 10. Andre Millerhttp://www.nba.com/media/act_andre_miller.jpg 9. Derrik Rosehttp://www.nba.com/media/act_derrick_rose.jpg 8. Rajon Rondo http://www.nba.com/media/act_rajon_rondo.jpg 7. Jason Kidd http://www.nba.com/media/act_jason_kidd.jpg 6. Devin Harris http://www.nba.com/media/act_devin_harris.jpg 5. Steve Nash http://www.nba.com/media/act_steve_nash.jpg 4. Tony Parker http://www.nba.com/media/act_tony_parker.jpg 3. Chauncey Billups http://www.nba.com/media/act_chauncey_billups.jpg 2. D-Will/Cp3 http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/deron_williams_chris_paul.jpg 1. Cp3/D-Will http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/deron_williams_chris_paul.jpg Btw for people who might know me from other forums yes I am Purch lol I didn't steal his list. Edited August 17, 2009 by Years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted August 17, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Haha, you are cheating by putting both Paul and Deron. You gotta pick one or the other. But nice list, nonetheless. I have to put Rose over Kidd and Rondo. Kidd has been on a steady decline for a while now, and he's nowhere near the offensive player he used to be. And Rose is right there with Rajon, but I'm taking Derrick for the simple fact that he's a legit franchise player, while Rondo isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Years Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Haha, you are cheating by putting both Paul and Deron. You gotta pick one or the other. But nice list, nonetheless. I have to put Rose over Kidd and Rondo. Kidd has been on a steady decline for a while now, and he's nowhere near the offensive player he used to be. And Rose is right there with Rajon, but I'm taking Derrick for the simple fact that he's a legit franchise player, while Rondo isn't. Still Kidd is one of the best decision makers we have in the game though. And Rose is still inexperienced and makes bad decisions in certain situations( Which is expected for a rookie). And Kidd has shown that he's still a great defender even though he can move the way he used too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.K. Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Jameer Nelson anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Years Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Jameer Nelson anyone? Lol relax he's my number 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted August 17, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Jameer Nelson anyone?I'd stick Jameer over Andre Miller. 1) Chris Paul2) Deron Williams3) Tony Parker4) Steve Nash5) Chauncey Billups6) Devin Harris7) Derrick Rose8) Rajon Rondo9) Jameer Nelson10) Jason Kidd 1-9 are all-stars, or potential all-stars. Kidd doesn't get that close anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deestillballin Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 10. Jason Kidd 9. Rajaon Rondo 8. Jameer Nelson 7. Andre Miller 6. Chauncy Billips 5. Steve Nash 4. Tony Parker 3. Devin Harris 2. Chris Paul 1. Deron Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.K. Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Jameer is better than Kidd, Miller, and Rondo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted August 17, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Jameer is better than Kidd, Miller, and Rondo.Kidd and Miller, but I don't think Nelson could've averaged a near triple-double in the playoffs, like Rondo did. Rondo is the better defender, better rebounder, almost better at everything other than shooting the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainEv3nt Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 steve nash over jason kidd why? jameer nelson over jason kidd? kidd was never really a scorer an in dallas hes asked to run the offense not to go out there to be a scorer. kidd still has the skill level to be a triple double threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Years Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) Eh maybe I just don't see it or maybe I'm underrating Jameer. He did have a case for Mip last season and had a breakout season but then he got injured so maybe that is effecting my judgment. Edited August 17, 2009 by Years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Uhhh its all wrong, check this out. 10)Miller9) Rondo8) Jameer7) Harris6) Rose5) Nash4) Parker3) CP32) Billups1) DWill thats right folks, CP3 is 3rd. He cant match up with elite PG's like Billups, Parker, or DWill. He always gets outplayed by them. Billups actually gets better in playoff time. CP3's numbers were down all across the board last year against Billups in the first round, where as Billups actually went up. Billups is too physical for CP3. DWill is just the best PG theres no disputing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.K. Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Before the injury, he was selected as the East's All-Star PG, NOT Rondo. He's going to surprise a lot of people (again) this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revis Island Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 My 10 > Your 10 1. CP32. Deron3. Billups4. Parker5. Nash6. Rondo7. Nelson8. Rose9. Harris10. Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2ThaG Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 My 10 > Your 10 1. CP32. Deron3. Billups4. Parker5. Nash6. Rondo7. Nelson8. Rose9. Harris10. Miller Why is Rondo so high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted August 17, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Rondo is overrated, defensively. He's pretty damn lucky Boston started double-teaming Rose, or else they would've lost that series in the playoffs, and Rose would've averaged 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revis Island Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Why is Rondo so high?See 2009 Playoffs for reasons....Pretty tired of people bashing him just because he schooled Kobe in Game 6 of the 2008 Finals, so people just say well Rondo has 3 HOFers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted August 17, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 See 2009 Playoffs for reasons....Pretty tired of people bashing him just because he schooled Kobe in Game 6 of the 2008 Finals, so people just say well Rondo has 3 HOFers.He schooled Kobe? Please dude. Just because a Lakers fan doesn't think Rondo is sixth on your list doesn't mean you can go attack his team. Mature a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revis Island Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 He schooled Kobe? Please dude. Just because a Lakers fan doesn't think Rondo is sixth on your list doesn't mean you can go attack his team. Mature a bit.Not really attacking, but if Rondo didn't play the game he did in Game 6 of the 2008 Finals, most people wouldn't care about him much they would still underrate him. He's a good player, star player. He's easily the best rebounding PG in the NBA. One of the best floor generals and is arguably the best defensive PG in the NBA. It's hard to put guys like Miller and Rose above him, when he's the best at so many things at his position. It's almost like saying James Worthy is better than Dominique Wilkins, In my opinion that is true. Worthy never had much of a chance to prove himself as a leader since he played with Magic Johnson his entire career but he was still a damn good player. Just like Rondo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted August 17, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Not really attacking, but if Rondo didn't play the game he did in Game 6 of the 2008 Finals, most people wouldn't care about him much they would still underrate him. He's a good player, star player. He's easily the best rebounding PG in the NBA. One of the best floor generals and is arguably the best defensive PG in the NBA. It's hard to put guys like Miller and Rose above him, when he's the best at so many things at his position. It's almost like saying James Worthy is better than Dominique Wilkins, In my opinion that is true. Worthy never had much of a chance to prove himself as a leader since he played with Magic Johnson his entire career but he was still a damn good player. Just like Rondo.So good at many things? If you contest Rajon's jumper, he misses it. He schooled Bryant? Because Bryant left him open to shoot, so he could defend Ray Allen, who was schooling Fisher. In fact, Phil Jackson stated that Bryant was free to roam defensively, because he didn't need to respect Rondo's shot. That's why Rondo shot 20-53 (37.7%) in the Finals against Bryant, including 1-7 in Game 5 and 8-20 in the Game 6 you are telling me he dominated Bryant in. He was smoked by Rose in Game 1 because Boston actually trusted his man-to-man defense (ended up double-teaming Rose for the rest of the series). Billups, Hinrich, Kidd...all better defensive point guards, and there aren't very many other points that actually play defense other than those guys, Rondo, Chalmers and Pargo (sure I'm missing someone). And Rondo didn't defend Bryant by himself. Not once. Not in the Finals. I've seen the series three times now, and I'm pretty sure it had a lot to do with Posey, Brown and Garnett stepping into Bryant's face each and every time he touched the ball or drove in. Rondo has absolutely no post game. His footwork is average on his best day. He's got a ways to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Years Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Uhhh its all wrong, check this out. 10)Miller9) Rondo8) Jameer7) Harris6) Rose5) Nash4) Parker3) CP32) Billups1) DWill thats right folks, CP3 is 3rd. He cant match up with elite PG's like Billups, Parker, or DWill. He always gets outplayed by them. Billups actually gets better in playoff time. CP3's numbers were down all across the board last year against Billups in the first round, where as Billups actually went up. Billups is too physical for CP3. DWill is just the best PG theres no disputing that. Alright I'm Gonna direct you to the part of the post where you put Billups ahead of Cp3. And then Direct you to the part where you claim I got my list all wrong. Just examine both of those statements and see if it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastley Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 1. Chris Paul2. Deron Williams3. Chauncy Billups4. Tony Parker5. Steve Nash6. Devin Harris7. Jameer Nelson8. Derrick Rose9. Rajon Rondo10. Jason Kidd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) 1. Deron Williams2. Chris Paul3. Tony Parker4. Chauncy Billups5. Derrick Rose6. Steve Nash7. Devin Harris8. Rajon Rondo9. Jameer Nelson10.Andre Miller I don't get why everyone is overrating Jason Kidd. I watched a bunch of Mavs games last year and he doesn't look like anything special anymore. His shot is alright now, but that's it. A lot of times they play him at the two-guard to allow him and Barea to play together so that takes some of the playmaking ability out of his hands. He has slowed down a lot and gets owned by the quicker guards now. He isn't as good at penetrating and running the break as he used to due to his loss of quickness. Edited August 18, 2009 by Diesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 My 10 > Your 10 1. CP32. Deron3. Billups4. Parker5. Nash6. Rondo7. Nelson8. Rose9. Harris10. Miller Swap Rondo with Rose and Nelson with Harris and that will be perfect for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextBestThing Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 This topic reminds me of why the media shouldn't get to vote on player awards. Jameer Nelson 2008-09 STATSPPG APG SPG16.7 5.4 1.2 Baron Davis 2008-09 STATS PPG APG SPG14.9 7.7 1.7 Nelson gets one extra basket per game. However, Nelson nets 5.4 assists playing with maybe the best inside finisher in the league, and a half dozen spot up shooters. Baron manages 7.7 assists with...well, the Clippers. Yet everyone ranks Jameer higher? Well, of course. His team was better. We saw the same effect in the MVP and (God knows) the Coach of the Year voting. How about a new ranking: The 3 most important skills in basketball: 3. Defense2. Offense1. Having good teammates Congratulations to Jameer Nelson. It takes a special kind of dedication and work to be drafted onto a team with Dwight Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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