Built Ford Tough Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Which franchise that has never won an NBA/ABA Championship do you feel is the best? For those of you that don't know which franchises have never won a ring, here is a list of them: Charlotte BobcatsCleveland CavaliersDallas MavericksDenver NuggetsLos Angeles ClippersMemphis GrizzliesMinnesota TimberwolvesNew Orleans HornetsOrlando MagicPhoenix SunsToronto RaptorsUtah Jazz (I think I got them all but this was off of the top of my head so if I missed something tell me and I'll edit it in) Edited September 8, 2009 by Built Ford Tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 It either comes down to the Phoenix Suns or the Utah Jazz. I'd go with Phoenix though. Other than LA, Boston, and SA Spurs(which are IMO the top 3 franchises) they have the highest winning percentage out of any team. They have MVP's in Nash and Barkley. They have been a winning team for the most part. I'd go with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universe Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Forgot the New Jersey Nets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built Ford Tough Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Forgot the New Jersey Nets. I counted the New York Nets 2 ABA Championships. That is why I didn't include them. I guess I did say NBA Championship though so it is contradicting lol. I edited to include ABA now lol. This way the only teams involved in the discussion will be teams that have not won a ring at all. Edited September 8, 2009 by Built Ford Tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Phoenix Suns as much as I'd like to say Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universe Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I counted the New York Nets 2 ABA Championships. That is why I didn't include them. I guess I did say NBA Championship though so it is contradicting lol. I edited to include ABA now lol. This way the only teams involved in the discussion will be teams that have not won a ring at all. Gotta remove Denver from the list then as they won in 1976. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built Ford Tough Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) Gotta remove Denver from the list then as they won in 1976. In 76 the Boston Celtics beat the Phoenix Suns to win the NBA Championship and the New York Nets beat the Denver Nuggets to win the ABA Championship. If you go on Basketbal Reference it says that Denver has never won an NBA or ABA Championship. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/ As for who I think, it is either the Jazz or the Suns. Here are some numbers comparing the two teams: Winning Percentage Phoenix: 55.9%Utah: 54.3% Playoff Appearances Phoenix: 28Utah: 23 Playoff Series Won Phoenix: 24Utah: 21 Percentage Of Seasons In Playoffs Phoneix: 68.3% (28/41)Utah: 65.7% (23/35) Division Championships Phoenix: 6Utah: 9 Conference Championships Phoenix: 2Utah: 2 Finals Appearances Phoenix: 2Utah: 2 Keep in mind that the Suns play in the same division as the Lakers who have the most Division Championships out of any team in the league (31). You also mention that the two times the Jazz lost in the Finals were to MJ and the Bulls, but the two times that the Suns got to the Finals they lost to MJ and the Bulls and a very strong and very balanced 75-76 Celtics team. Then if you want to compare the stars that each team has had play for them you have Phoneix with guys like: Charles BarkleySteve NashJason KiddKevin JohnsonStephon Marbury (when he was actually good)Cedric Ceballos and Utah has guys like: Karl MaloneJohn StocktonPete MaravichDominique WilkensAdrian Dantley The Jazz or Suns should be the most common answer here though. It really is a toss up between the two of them if you ask me. I would probably give the Suns a slight advantage though. Edited September 9, 2009 by Built Ford Tough 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Dre Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 im gonna say the suns because of the reasons others posted. and btw, ^ conference championship is the same thing as a finals appearance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 In 76 the Boston Celtics beat the Phoenix Suns to win the NBA Championship and the New York Nets beat the Denver Nuggets to win the ABA Championship. If you go on Basketbal Reference it says that Denver has never won an NBA or ABA Championship. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/ As for who I think, it is either the Jazz or the Suns. Here are some numbers comparing the two teams: Winning Percentage Phoenix: 55.9%Utah: 54.3% Playoff Appearances Phoenix: 28Utah: 23 Playoff Series Won Phoenix: 24Utah: 21 Percentage Of Seasons In Playoffs Phoneix: 68.3% (28/41)Utah: 65.7% (23/35) Division Championships Phoenix: 6Utah: 9 Conference Championships Phoenix: 2Utah: 2 Finals Appearances Phoenix: 2Utah: 2 Keep in mind that the Suns play in the same division as the Lakers who have the most Division Championships out of any team in the league (31). You also mention that the two times the Jazz lost in the Finals were to MJ and the Bulls, but the two times that the Suns got to the Finals they lost to MJ and the Bulls and a very strong and very balanced 75-76 Celtics team. Then if you want to compare the stars that each team has had play for them you have Phoneix with guys like: Charles BarkleySteve NashJason KiddKevin JohnsonStephon Marbury (when he was actually good)Cedric Ceballos and Utah has guys like: Karl MaloneJohn StocktonPete MaravichDominique WilkensAdrian Dantley The Jazz or Suns should be the most common answer here though. It really is a toss up between the two of them if you ask me. I would probably give the Suns a slight advantage though. Good [expletive]. Repped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted September 9, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Sean, Wilkins never played for the Jazz. But I agree, it's Phoenix. There's just too much talent there, and they would've actually had a championship (just as the Jazz would've) if it wasn't for Jordan...but even after Jordan retired, I think Phoenix had it in the bag again before a Robert Horry hip-check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revis Island Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Orlando Magic.....Sike. Jazz or Suns for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built Ford Tough Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) Sean, Wilkins never played for the Jazz. But I agree, it's Phoenix. There's just too much talent there, and they would've actually had a championship (just as the Jazz would've) if it wasn't for Jordan...but even after Jordan retired, I think Phoenix had it in the bag again before a Robert Horry hip-check. I didn't think he did either, but somebody on Real GM said that he played a season there so I wrote it anyways lol as I was too lazy to look it up myself haha. Edited September 9, 2009 by Built Ford Tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Sean, Wilkins never played for the Jazz. But I agree, it's Phoenix. There's just too much talent there, and they would've actually had a championship (just as the Jazz would've) if it wasn't for Jordan...but even after Jordan retired, I think Phoenix had it in the bag again before a Robert Horry hip-check.Really B? You think they had a title even though they played no defense? Im not too sure about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaDoink Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Suns have just gotten so damn close!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted September 9, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Really B? You think they had a title even though they played no defense? Im not too sure about that.They would've beaten the Cavaliers, yes. Cleveland really had no offense outside of LeBron. The Lakers didn't have to play much defense against a 2001 Sixers team, which was very similar to Cleveland's 2007 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChosenOne Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Has to be either the Suns or Jazz. Leaning more to the Jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I'd easily say the Suns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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