Artest: My fault if Lakers titleless in '10

[magicbalala245]

Ron Artest says that if the Los Angeles Lakers don't repeat as NBA champions, fans can point their fingers at him.

 

Artest made the statement Monday during a visit to San Diego to promote the Lakers' exhibition game against Denver at the San Diego Sports Arena on Oct. 23.

 

The Lakers open training camp Sept. 29 at their headquarters in El Segundo.

 

Artest wore an all-black Kobe Bryant jersey as a tribute to his new teammate.

[kingfish]

Sounds like hes ready to disrupt and play all about himself. Sounds like he could care less about winning a title.

[OldChili]

Sounds like hes ready to disrupt and play all about himself. Sounds like he could care less about winning a title.

Lol.

 

Such subtle sarcasm.

Edited September 22, 2009 by OldChili

[Zolor23]

Ok. It's his fault. Everyone knows they aren't going to win the title

[Jenneral]

Ok. It's his fault. Everyone knows they aren't going to win the title

Yeah, because the Bucks are.

[YugoRocketsFan]

And they wont win a title because of him, its pretty obvious.

[Warren2ThaG]

And they wont win a title because of him, its pretty obvious.

 

We might be a dynasty becuz of him......

[Real Deal]

Wow, this is so reminiscent of Dennis Rodman's sideshow act when he went to Chicago in 1995. We are definitely screwed.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Wow, this is so reminiscent of Dennis Rodman's sideshow act when he went to Chicago in 1995. We are definitely screwed.

 

Just because they are both crazy doesnt mean you can compare them in anyway.

 

Rodman is one of the greatest defenders of all time, greatest rebounder and wasnt a part of the offense and always played in the Bulls defensive and offensive schemes.

 

Artest is an offensive free-lancer who's numbers dwindle during the playoffs and he still jacks up random shots, his career high in shooting % in playoffs is a 40.7. I love these outside situations you use to backup a bogus claim, it seriously makes me laugh.

Edited September 22, 2009 by YugoRocketsFan

[kingfish]

Artest had to jack up shots in Houston, when TMac got injured he had to. He was just playing within what the team needed. This year he will be exactly what we need him to be.

[Real Deal]

Just because they are both crazy doesnt mean you can compare them in anyway.

 

Rodman is one of the greatest defenders of all time, greatest rebounder and wasnt a part of the offense and always played in the Bulls defensive and offensive schemes.

 

Artest is an offensive free-lancer who's numbers dwindle during the playoffs and he still jacks up random shots, his career high in shooting % in playoffs is a 40.7. I love these outside situations you use to backup a bogus claim, it seriously makes me laugh.

LMAO. So you decline to talk about Rodman's offensive game, and incline to avoid Ron Artest's defense? You aren't making any sense and remind me of another Rockets fan on OTR, who spends his time bashing McGrady.

 

You were on Artest's nuts just one year ago.

 

Fact is, Ron Artest won't even be a second option in our offense. He'll thrive as a spot-up shooter, just as Ariza did. You'll find out the hard way, I guess.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Artest had to jack up shots in Houston, when TMac got injured he had to. He was just playing within what the team needed. This year he will be exactly what we need him to be.

 

What the team needed? We didnt need him to jack up shots, we needed him to play within the offense and hit open buckets.

[YugoRocketsFan]

LMAO. So you decline to talk about Rodman's offensive game, and incline to avoid Ron Artest's defense? You aren't making any sense and remind me of another Rockets fan on OTR, who spends his time bashing McGrady.

 

You were on Artest's nuts just one year ago.

 

Fact is, Ron Artest won't even be a second option in our offense. He'll thrive as a spot-up shooter, just as Ariza did. You'll find out the hard way, I guess.

 

Artest is good defensively yes, but he cant guard fast players (Brandon Roy, Kobe, etc.) and gambles for steals.

 

I wasnt on Artest's nuts at all, you need to look up on urbandictionary what the word being on someone's nuts is, i was never on his nuts, I supported him like most fans did and guess what, I was wrong about Artest, just like Laker fans were wrong about Smush Parker after the first 2 games for the Lakers where he scored 20 both times. Laker fans will feel the same exact thing, you'll see who this guy is in the playoffs, and he wont play within the offense, its like teaching a Bird how to sit, quite impossible.

[Real Deal]

Artest is good defensively yes, but he cant guard fast players (Brandon Roy, Kobe, etc.) and gambles for steals.

 

I wasnt on Artest's nuts at all, you need to look up on urbandictionary what the word being on someone's nuts is, i was never on his nuts, I supported him like most fans did and guess what, I was wrong about Artest, just like Laker fans were wrong about Smush Parker after the first 2 games for the Lakers where he scored 20 both times. Laker fans will feel the same exact thing, you'll see who this guy is in the playoffs, and he wont play within the offense, its like teaching a Bird how to sit, quite impossible.

I don't care what Lakers fans were praising Smush. I didn't like him, ever. Von Wafer was supposed to be a poor man's Ray Allen, also, and I distinctly remember you bragging about his play. I never did, always knew he sucked, and he didn't do jack for Houston.

 

You're judging a player based on his play as a primary option. You're wrong to do so. People were hating on Gasol for not getting out of the first round in Memphis, also, and nobody thought he'd be considered a top three power forward in the league, either, but a lot of analysts are picking up their jaws.

 

When you play alongside the best player in the game and the best coach in NBA history, you're going to play better than you would as a primary option when, actually, Ron was never that big of a scoring threat to be that first option, as seen in Sacramento and Houston.

 

And nobody has to worry about Roy. Kobe will take him. Ron will cover post-ups, the more physical players, such as Melo and Pierce.

 

But okay, you'll see.

[YugoRocketsFan]

I don't care what Lakers fans were praising Smush. I didn't like him, ever. Von Wafer was supposed to be a poor man's Ray Allen, also, and I distinctly remember you bragging about his play. I never did, always knew he sucked, and he didn't do jack for Houston.

 

You're judging a player based on his play as a primary option. You're wrong to do so. People were hating on Gasol for not getting out of the first round in Memphis, also, and nobody thought he'd be considered a top three power forward in the league, either, but a lot of analysts are picking up their jaws.

 

When you play alongside the best player in the game and the best coach in NBA history, you're going to play better than you would as a primary option when, actually, Ron was never that big of a scoring threat to be that first option, as seen in Sacramento and Houston.

 

And nobody has to worry about Roy. Kobe will take him. Ron will cover post-ups, the more physical players, such as Melo and Pierce.

 

But okay, you'll see.

 

Von Wafer, when T-Mac got injured he played WELL! In January he averaged 14.3 ppg (15 games) on almost 50% shooting and 41% from 3 point line and had a very important clutch bucket vs Boston.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOtV9zatazk

 

Von on Rockets is way better than Von on Lakers, Von was like 20 years old when he was on the Lakers, he practiced on his game and got good and averaged 10 ppg vs the Blazers in the 1st round.

 

Gasol also is a different story, when he was traded to the Lakers, EVERYBODY was mad and thought that the trade would help the Lakers a lot, I even knew that this would make the Lakers good, I didnt think he'd have such an impact as a player but I knew that trade would defenitely help out the Lakers. Artest also never was a 1st scoring option for us, he actually never was, when Yao and T-Mac were injured in Lakers series our main scoring option was Aaron Brooks, vs Blazers, Brooks and Yao were the main options, Artest has sucked his entire career in the playoffs, with Indiana, with Sac-Town, with Rockets and it wont change because hes playing with Kobe and Phil.

 

I also wont see anything, Ron will screw you guys over and i'll be laughing behind my tv set when a smarter team just beats you in the playoffs, you guys could just win if Artest gets injured but the guy is a cancer and no show in the playoffs, my experience watching him in the playoffs shows this and the statistics show this, his field goal % will fall below 40% in the playoffs, im willing to bet cold-hard cash on this with anyone.

[Real Deal]

Wafer sucked, dude. His defense was complete trash. He produced stats on offense for 15 games? Good for him. Smush averaged 11-12 PPG or so. He still sucked.

 

When McGrady went down, Ron WAS trying to run the offense. He became the primary option because of that. That's his fault, and I realize it. That's why you called him a chucker.

 

Every coach Ron has had acts as if they are scared to death of him. When the playoffs come around, they give him the green light to shoot the ball. Jermaine O'Neal and the 61-win Pacers (or 62, can't remember) were coached by Rick Carlisle, and you can ask any Pacers fan how intimidated Rick was of Artest, and they will confirm what I said above.

 

If you think Phil Jackson will do that, you're wrong.

 

Like Odom, Bynum, Farmar, Vujacic and others, Artest will see less time on the court if he starts screwing up. We have the players to make up for that, and Artest won't rebel, especially after seeing Rodman, Shaq, Kobe and even a young Pippen straighten up when Phil walks into the room.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Wafer sucked, dude. His defense was complete trash. He produced stats on offense for 15 games? Good for him. Smush averaged 11-12 PPG or so. He still sucked.

 

When McGrady went down, Ron WAS trying to run the offense. He became the primary option because of that. That's his fault, and I realize it. That's why you called him a chucker.

 

Every coach Ron has had acts as if they are scared to death of him. When the playoffs come around, they give him the green light to shoot the ball. Jermaine O'Neal and the 61-win Pacers (or 62, can't remember) were coached by Rick Carlisle, and you can ask any Pacers fan how intimidated Rick was of Artest, and they will confirm what I said above.

 

If you think Phil Jackson will do that, you're wrong.

 

Like Odom, Bynum, Farmar, Vujacic and others, Artest will see less time on the court if he starts screwing up. We have the players to make up for that, and Artest won't rebel, especially after seeing Rodman, Shaq, Kobe and even a young Pippen straighten up when Phil walks into the room.

 

His defense never bothered me, his only fault was on fast break getting tons of charges, but his defense was alright and his offense was solid. And Smush's defense was terrible and his shooting % reeked, Wafer was a good shooter and actually came up when it mattered, and shoot Wafer wasnt even a PG. Ron also wasnt a primary option, I repeat, not a primary option, he tried to be yes, but he just bricked and bricked, and hes always been a chucker.

 

Artest also did screw Indiana in the playoffs kinda like how he will screw the Lakers.

 

Thats good that he'll be seeing less time on the court if he starts screwing up, when that happens he is gonna blow up and start talking behind Jackson's back, the guy isnt a stable human being, he'll screw the Lakers one way or another. And Rodman, Shaq, Kobe and a "young" Pippen are different situations, those guys are good/solid players who have almost no history of chucking, well Kobe was somewhat of a chucker, but hes a good chucker while Artest is a bad chucker, the guy will screw you over and i'll be laughing in the Laker game threads everytime this happens.

[Real Deal]

Alright.

[YugoRocketsFan]

Alright.

 

Nice response, I dont know how I can top that.

[kingfish]

You basically just said everything hes done in the past. What if he does play within his limits as a role player and spot up shooter and lock down defender, what will you say then?

[YugoRocketsFan]

You basically just said everything hes done in the past. What if he does play within his limits as a role player and spot up shooter and lock down defender, what will you say then?

 

Nothing, because it wont happen.

[kingfish]

Nothing, because it wont happen.

Kay.

[Real Deal]

Kay.

LMAO.

[headliner]

Why is he trying so hard to put all the attention on himself? He needs to shut up and contribute to this team and try to repeat because everyone knows it’s not easy to repeat when every team is gunning for the Lakers. It’s should be about the Lakers not about Artest’s side show.