Kobe works out with Hakeem

[magicbalala245]

Are you seriously that stupid? If it werent for that shot, the Lakers wouldnt have played the Kings, jesus [expletive]ing christ.

 

How do you know if the Lakers wouldn't come back against the Kings down 3-1? Especially with a Laker team like that back then

[YugoRocketsFan]

How do you know if the Lakers wouldn't come back against the Kings down 3-1? Especially with a Laker team like that back then

 

...................you are still strolling away from the main subject, without that one shot, Lakers wouldnt have won a ring then.

[Dash]

That's good of Hakeem. Kobe won't learn anything special but maybe add another move or two to his arsenal.

[Smithankyou]

Imagine Kobe will Olajuwon's post moves.

 

exactly wat i was trying to do.

 

hmmmm...

 

but Kobe is good ! Let's see him in Olajuwon's move this season!

[Real Deal]

Are you seriously that stupid? If it werent for that shot, the Lakers wouldnt have played the Kings, jesus [expletive]ing christ.

And if it wasn't for Paxson hitting the three to literally WIN a championship in Game 6 against the Suns, well, the Suns would have a championship, I guess.

 

But nobody asks themselves what would've happened if Paxson didn't even play that entire series. Jordan may have had the ball in his hands more. Same with Pippen. It probably wouldn't have even come down to that last shot, either, as Paxson's defense against Phoenix wasn't that special to begin with.

 

As someone who more than likely didn't watch the entire series, you should probably factor in Horry's inconsistencies on offense throughout the quarters of those games, and his inability to do anything with Webber when we needed him to.

 

As far as comparing Kobe's IQ to someone like Horry's, well...that's a huge leap from one mountain to another. Horry's IQ was limited to following a shot to the rim, and grabbing a board, to getting open like Devean George and hitting the jumper. I'm definitely not saying he's as bad as Devean, not even saying Horry was a bad player (because he wasn't), but don't ever put him and Bryant in the same sentence.

 

No other player in the league has put out a better pump fake since Olajuwon. Kobe can score from 20 feet in using a post up move, and that's pretty ridiculous.

 

If Odom and Cassell can pull off half-ass Dream Shakes, Kobe can tear you apart with it.

 

[YugoRocketsFan]

And if it wasn't for Paxson hitting the three to literally WIN a championship in Game 6 against the Suns, well, the Suns would have a championship, I guess.

 

But nobody asks themselves what would've happened if Paxson didn't even play that entire series. Jordan may have had the ball in his hands more. Same with Pippen. It probably wouldn't have even come down to that last shot, either, as Paxson's defense against Phoenix wasn't that special to begin with.

 

As someone who more than likely didn't watch the entire series, you should probably factor in Horry's inconsistencies on offense throughout the quarters of those games, and his inability to do anything with Webber when we needed him to.

 

As far as comparing Kobe's IQ to someone like Horry's, well...that's a huge leap from one mountain to another. Horry's IQ was limited to following a shot to the rim, and grabbing a board, to getting open like Devean George and hitting the jumper. I'm definitely not saying he's as bad as Devean, not even saying Horry was a bad player (because he wasn't), but don't ever put him and Bryant in the same sentence.

 

No other player in the league has put out a better pump fake since Olajuwon. Kobe can score from 20 feet in using a post up move, and that's pretty ridiculous.

 

If Odom and Cassell can pull off half-[expletive] Dream Shakes, Kobe can tear you apart with it.

 

 

Im not saying Horry played like an all-star in that series, but still 1 shot is 1 shot, if the Lakers-Magic series went to 7 games and the Magic were up 2 with 3 seconds left and Sasha Vujacic was in there and somehow hit a 3, you know you would love him after that no matter what he did before.

[Real Deal]

Im not saying Horry played like an all-star in that series, but still 1 shot is 1 shot, if the Lakers-Magic series went to 7 games and the Magic were up 2 with 3 seconds left and Sasha Vujacic was in there and somehow hit a 3, you know you would love him after that no matter what he did before.

...lol, no. In that case, I'd look back and see he didn't score a single point in all of those seven games (because he didn't in the five we played) and realize we probably could've won in five if Shannon Brown had all of Vujacic's minutes.

 

I don't look at things like that. If someone is hurting us for 40 minutes (ex. Odom was doing this for a LONG time) and then that person suddenly makes a good play to win a game...sorry, that doesn't mean much, because:

 

1) that play was probably initiated by someone like Bryant or Gasol, and

2) we wouldn't have been in that position had Odom actually played like a star

 

So in the end, that doesn't matter to me. Did you happen to see Jordan Farmar's play against Houston when Fisher was suspended one game after his idiotic shoulder-block on Scola? Farmar did good. Doesn't matter, though, because he absolutely sucked all season long, and hitting a big shot here and there means nothing because, truth is, Shannon Brown's defense would've been much more valuable than Farmar's irresponsible play.

 

If Horry had won championships as a second scoring option...well, okay, he gets props for something like that. But he didn't. If Shaq didn't have to jump over to help on Webber, Divac would've probably had less of a chance to score, and the same goes for Christie and Bibby when Bryant would help on Webber's elbow jumpers, who were soaking up WIDE OPEN shots from Webber on doubles, as C-Webb decided to prove to everyone he was probably the best passing four in the history of the game.

[YugoRocketsFan]

...lol, no. In that case, I'd look back and see he didn't score a single point in all of those seven games (because he didn't in the five we played) and realize we probably could've won in five if Shannon Brown had all of Vujacic's minutes.

 

I don't look at things like that. If someone is hurting us for 40 minutes (ex. Odom was doing this for a LONG time) and then that person suddenly makes a good play to win a game...sorry, that doesn't mean much, because:

 

1) that play was probably initiated by someone like Bryant or Gasol, and

2) we wouldn't have been in that position had Odom actually played like a star

 

So in the end, that doesn't matter to me. Did you happen to see Jordan Farmar's play against Houston when Fisher was suspended one game after his idiotic shoulder-block on Scola? Farmar did good. Doesn't matter, though, because he absolutely sucked all season long, and hitting a big shot here and there means nothing because, truth is, Shannon Brown's defense would've been much more valuable than Farmar's irresponsible play.

 

If Horry had won championships as a second scoring option...well, okay, he gets props for something like that. But he didn't. If Shaq didn't have to jump over to help on Webber, Divac would've probably had less of a chance to score, and the same goes for Christie and Bibby when Bryant would help on Webber's elbow jumpers, who were soaking up WIDE OPEN shots from Webber on doubles, as C-Webb decided to prove to everyone he was probably the best passing four in the history of the game.

 

 

LOL, you look at everything from a coach's perspective.

[Real Deal]

LOL, you look at everything from a coach's perspective.

That's because if I looked at it from a player's perspective, I'd be praising every single Laker player on our roster...but realistically, there are six or seven true contributors to that championship, possibly three of them main contributors, and the rest don't even deserve a ring.

 

Fisher hit a couple of big shots for us. He hit that 0.4 shot years ago against the Spurs as well. However, he has been average to completely horrific on defense, most of the time below average, and it has killed us in those games...and his ability to hit the shot only creates half the play. The other half is connected when Bryant or Shaq drew the double and fed him in the corner.

 

So I ask myself if Horry and Fisher would be hitting those big shots on a team similar to last year's Kings, and the answer is clear: no way, not even in the regular season, because Fisher isn't Hamilton or Reggie Miller in regards to his off-the-ball play, and neither is Horry.

 

There's a reason why Horry has been on multiple teams, and there's also a reason why Fisher's experiment with Golden State and Utah didn't work out, despite his stay with the Jazz being cut short because of his daughter.