fish7718 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Miami beat 4 ranked teams to start the season. We beat a pre-meltdown FSU, a very good GT team that beat Virginia Tech on Saturday and an OU team that without Bradford almost beat the number 3 team in the country. Who has Iowa beat? Overrated Penn St.? Wisconsin isn't that good either. Miami 's one loss was in a monsoon, on the road at Lane Stadium. Iowa still has to travel to MSU and Columbus so we'll see where they are after that. Also, the ACC has 3 top 15 teams. Miami, GT and VT are better than any team in the Big 10...including Iowa. Tell me what makes Iowa better than Miami, GT or Virginia Tech?Just because Miami stole a couple games at home doesn't make up for the fact they got destroyed by VT. Beating Okhlahoma 21-20 w/o Bradford does not impress me. The fact you mention Florida State is funny, FSU could have easily won that game, beating a 2-4 team does not impress me. I've stated my reasons why Iowa is better it be dumb to do so again when you can just scroll up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Just because Miami stole a couple games at home doesn't make up for the fact they got destroyed by VT. Beating Okhlahoma 21-20 w/o Bradford does not impress me. The fact you mention Florida State is funny, FSU could have easily won that game, beating a 2-4 team does not impress me. I've stated my reasons why Iowa is better it be dumb to do so again when you can just scroll up. Miami stole those games at home?!?! Are you serious? Miami absolutely dominated Georgia Tech and the Big 12 refs vs. OU kept us from making it 28-13 rather than 21-20. I can tell you didn't watch the games. FSU went out and crushed BYU the week after we beat them. It was the USF game where the meltdown began for them and their problems have everything to do with things going on behind the scenes right now. Miami lost on the road in a fricken monsoon against the number 4 team in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Weather was a huge factor in our loss to VT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) I think it's because they won @ Penn State and @ Wisconsin two ranked teams. Penn State is ranked higher than Ohio State and Wisconsin is ranked higher than Notre Dame. Not to mention Iowa beating Arizona. Also not to mention Iowa being undefeated. That is why they are ahead of USC. Wisconsin was ranked because they beat a bunch of terrible teams. Their best game was vs. Ohio St and they got pounded by an average OSU* team. People knew Wisconsin wasn't as good as their ranking showed too. Penn St.'s schedule is even more of a joke as it consists or juggernauts like Syracuse, Temple, Akron and Eastern Illinois. Give me a break that OOC schedule is weaker than UF's. Iowa beat one okay and we'll see what happens when they go to Columbus in a few weeks. I think they lose at MSU this week but we'll see. Notre Dame a team that lost to Michigan? You mean that same horrible Michigan team Iowa beat down by a monstrous 2 points at home? Edited October 20, 2009 by Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Wisconsin was ranked because they beat a bunch of terrible teams. Their best game was vs. Ohio St and they got pounded by an average OSU* team. People knew Wisconsin wasn't as good as their ranking showed too. Penn St.'s schedule is even more of a joke as it consists or juggernauts like Syracuse, Temple, Akron and Eastern Illinois. Give me a break that OOC schedule is weaker than UF's. Iowa beat one okay and we'll see what happens when they go to Columbus in a few weeks. I think they lose at MSU this week but we'll see. You mean that same horrible Michigan team Iowa beat down by a monstrous 2 points at home? A win is a win no? Anyway you cut Iowa is undefeated, Miami is not. End of story, have a nice day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 A win is a win no? Anyway you cut Iowa is undefeated, Miami is not. End of story, have a nice day. So then your argument about USC beating OSU* and ND is nothing because a win is a win no? LOL @ the Big Ten apologist. Almost as bad as the SEC homers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 A win is a win no? Anyway you cut Iowa is undefeated, Miami is not. End of story, have a nice day. How does that make then the better team when they have played a weak [expletive] schedule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 So then your argument about USC beating OSU* and ND is nothing because a win is a win no? LOL @ the Big Ten apologist. Almost as bad as the SEC homers.You are saying the ACC is a tough conference, what is that based off? I'd take the Big 10 over the ACC overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 You are saying the ACC is a tough conference, what is that based off? I'd take the Big 10 over the ACC overall. Not saying the ACC is tough by any means but neither is the Big 10. Neither conference is that great but Big 10 teams are continuously overrated each year until they play a big OOC game and get rocked. Iowa hasn't played a half decent OOC opponent so I guess we'll just have to wait for the bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great iBoldin Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Wisconsin was ranked because they beat a bunch of terrible teams. Their best game was vs. Ohio St and they got pounded by an average OSU* team. People knew Wisconsin wasn't as good as their ranking showed too. Penn St.'s schedule is even more of a joke as it consists or juggernauts like Syracuse, Temple, Akron and Eastern Illinois. Give me a break that OOC schedule is weaker than UF's. Iowa beat one okay and we'll see what happens when they go to Columbus in a few weeks. I think they lose at MSU this week but we'll see. You mean that same horrible Michigan team Iowa beat down by a monstrous 2 points at home? You didn't watch the Ohio State/Wisconsin game. I know it already. Wisconsin was in that game the entire time, and if they had any competency at the quarterback position, they would of went into Columbus and won that football game. They're a very good team, but they're not a top-twenty team by any means. And going into Happy Valley maybe isn't quite going into Lane Stadium, but it's probably pretty damn close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 You didn't watch the Ohio State/Wisconsin game. I know it already. Wisconsin was in that game the entire time, and if they had any competency at the quarterback position, they would of went into Columbus and won that football game. They're a very good team, but they're not a top-twenty team by any means. And going into Happy Valley maybe isn't quite going into Lane Stadium, but it's probably pretty damn close.The Iowa win at Penn St was expected as just about everyone picked Iowa. Iowa just has Penn St.'s number lately. Not just that but PSU is overrated. I just dont think the Big 10 is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Bomba Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Just because Miami stole a couple games at home doesn't make up for the fact they got destroyed by VT. Beating Okhlahoma 21-20 w/o Bradford does not impress me. The fact you mention Florida State is funny, FSU could have easily won that game, beating a 2-4 team does not impress me. I've stated my reasons why Iowa is better it be dumb to do so again when you can just scroll up.Great logic dude. You use Miami's close wins against BCS teams, teams that were ranked at the moment, against them yet you fail to mention Iowa had close wins against teams that are barley Division 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kadillak Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Rankings mean nothing to LSU right now. We control our own destiny. If we win out, we're in the championship, but it's highly unlikely we win out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2ThaG Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (Oregon) Wonder where we'll rank if we beat Washington and USC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 fish, who is your favorite team? you are worse than some sec homers, because at least the teams in the sec are decent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (Oregon) Wonder where we'll rank if we beat Washington and USC.top 5 IF you beat USC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Great logic dude. You use Miami's close wins against BCS teams, teams that were ranked at the moment, against them yet you fail to mention Iowa had close wins against teams that are barley Division 1. Yeah it goes both ways you are right. Honestly you can't compare the two teams because they haven't played any similar opponents. However, saying Iowa isn't good because the big 10 is over rated is dumb. fish, who is your favorite team? you are worse than some sec homers, because at least the teams in the sec are decent.Penn State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 saying Iowa isn't good because the big 10 is over rated is dumb. No it isn't. Every other highly ranked Big 10 team has failed to show that they deserve their ranking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) top 5 IF you beat USC I think Oregon can win in Eugene against SC but you would be right there with Miami for that 4th spot.( I think Miami passes Boise and Cincy due to strength of schedule and I think Iowa loses at MSU and at *) Edited October 21, 2009 by Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Bomba Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 SEC homers are right though. I consider myself an SEC homer. The SEC is the best conference in America, bar none. No conference in America is even comparable to what the SEC does year in and year out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 SEC homers are right though. I consider myself an SEC homer. The SEC is the best conference in America, bar none. No conference in America is even comparable to what the SEC does year in and year out.you guys sure prove yourself with your impressive OOC schedule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Bomba Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Yeah and then when those big games come, meaning bowls, who wins them? SEC. Look at Ole Miss last season. They were a good, not great, team in the SEC and they absolutely destroyed Texas Tech, a team that was in the National Title hunt by playing in the defenseless Big 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUBucksfan09 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 BCS is flawed anyway, if you play a tough out of conference schedule you pay for it. FL played no body as did Texas for out of conference and are on top. USC went out and played OSU, Oklahoma played BYU and both are now in a bad situation for the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUBucksfan09 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Poohhindi like 80 percent of the bowls anyway are in SEC country I mean theyre home games for the SEC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Bomba Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Great, but for how much longer can that excuse be used? A win is a win. The SEC consistently has the best talent and constantly plays the best teams once their conference schedule starts. EDIT: With that said, the BCS should vanish and be replaced with playoff games in the most neutral sites possible, but that makes to much sense so the NCAA won't let that happen. Edited October 21, 2009 by Poohdini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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