Owner Real Deal Posted October 30, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 90% of the problems have been caused by the guy you just suspended. Other than his [expletive], pretty much everything in this thread has been good discussion.That remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 90% of the problems have been caused by the guy you just suspended. Other than his [expletive], pretty much everything in this thread has been good discussion. I have to agree. Just don't let Deisel post on the baseball board when he comes back and I'm sure the discussion will get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I have to agree. Just don't let Deisel post on the baseball board when he comes back and I'm sure the discussion will get better.this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Knick Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Got home at 10:30 from a school function, DVR'ed the game and just finished watching it. Wow, what a game. Tex/Matsui finally come up big and we get a much needed win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Anyway....still think the Phillies are in good shape. Would have loved the win tonight, but I will settle with the split in NY and reclaiming home field. The Phillies hardly ever lose at Citizens Bank Park in October. And it seems like they have mastered this 7 game series plan. Win game 1 on the road, lose game 2, then win all 3 at home. Steps 1 and 2 have gone exactly according to plan so far here haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Makes the parks more exciting though.Yup sure does I love playing in Philly. What?   And to Fish, no, that Matsui ball wouldn't even get to the warning track in CBP. I never really complain about park dimensions though since both teams have to deal with the same ones, but that is only a homerun at Yankee Stadium. Whatever.  Anyway, still in good shape heading back to South Philly. Would have been nice to win tonight but this team never wins game 2 on the road.I've seen Reyes hit joke pop ups that go out to left field. If it don't go out it's pretty damn close lmao. Phillies did what every away team in a series wants to do, and thats steal a game to give home field advantage back.  What did they keep showing the lil jew kid celebrating?This isn't the NBA pal, home field don't mean that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited)  I've seen Reyes hit joke pop ups that go out to left field. If it don't go out it's pretty damn close lmao.  CBP: 329 down the line to left, 330 down the line to right. Matsui's ball was not straight down the line and was 3 or 4 rows back and was still only estimated to be 320 feet. CBP is a bandbox, but nothing like that haha.  Anyway, both teams have to deal with it, no matter where the game is being played, so I am not complaining or anything, just pointing out that the Matsui ball barely reaches the warning track even in Philly, if it reaches it at all. Moot point though. This isn't the NBA pal, home field don't mean that much. The Phillies are 11-1 at home in the postseason the past two years. Pardon us for being happy about grabbing home field back. Edited October 30, 2009 by Phightins09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Got to love the matchups the rest of the way. Phillies have the pitching depth and advantage. Hamels was the WS MVP last year, Pettite looks sharp this postseason, but the Phillies are a whole nother brand of baseball, especially in that park. CC will probably throw on 3 days rest, im wondering if Lee will do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly3rs18 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 The Phillies are 11-1 at home in the postseason the past two years. Pardon us for being happy about grabbing home field back. beat me to it. home field is absolutely important in baseball, probably more then it is in some other sports   and i am perfectly fine with tonight. no team can really expect to win 2 straight in yankee stadium. our goal was to win 1 in new york and thats exactly what we did. lets see how the yankees handle the philly fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 CBP: 329 down the line to left, 330 down the line to right. Matsui's ball was not straight down the line and was 3 or 4 rows back and was still only estimated to be 320 feet. CBP is a bandbox, but nothing like that haha.  Anyway, both teams have to deal with it, no matter where the game is being played, so I am not complaining or anything, just pointing out that the Matsui ball barely reaches the warning track even in Philly, if it reaches it at all. Moot point though.   The Phillies are 11-1 at home in the postseason the past two years. Pardon us for being happy about grabbing home field back.No need to pardon I'm not trying to rain on your parade or anything. Just saying that historically home field doesn't mean that much at all in MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly3rs18 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 No need to pardon I'm not trying to rain on your parade or anything. Just saying that historically home field doesn't mean that much at all in MLB. facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted October 30, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 facts?I believe it was the Phillies who took out the Dodgers in the NLCS this year, and LA had home field against them. I think the Angels had home field over the Sox in last year's ALDS, and they lost 3-1. In the same year, the Dodgers beat the Cubs in the NLDS, who had home field. That's just over the last two years. In 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006 and 2008, all teams starting with home field advantage in the World Series lost. Pretty inconsistent across the board. I'd say it doesn't really matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I believe it was the Phillies who took out the Dodgers in the NLCS this year, and LA had home field against them. I think the Angels had home field over the Sox in last year's ALDS, and they lost 3-1. In the same year, the Dodgers beat the Cubs in the NLDS, who had home field. That's just over the last two years. In 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006 and 2008, all teams starting with home field advantage in the World Series lost. Pretty inconsistent across the board. I'd say it doesn't really matter. You are right, across baseball it's pretty inconsistent and doesn't seem to be as big a deal as it is in other sports. But when you play as well at home as the Phillies do, it is absolutely a big deal on an individual level. They have been nearly unbeatable at home the past two Octobers. The reason the Phillies beat the Dodgers this year is because they took one of two to open the series in LA, and then wrecked them in 3 straight at Citizens Bank to end the series. That is what happened against Tampa in the World Series last year as well. So even though across baseball it doesn't seem to be a big deal, there are certain teams with awesome home field advantages, the Phillies being one of them. Obviously the Yankees are far superior to the Dodgers, and even the Rays of last year, so this will be a bit different, but it still helps the confidence level knowing how comfortable they are in their home park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly3rs18 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 ^^exactly in baseball id almost rather be the underdog and have 3 straight games at home. its so much better unless the series gets to 7 games  but playing at home is different for the phillies then it is for other teams. the phillies are 11-1 at home the past 2 years i believe (undefeated at home last year playoffs i think?). that doesnt just happen by chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Joe Blanton will start game 4, Cliff Lee will start game 5. This means only one more start out of Lee. Kind of sucks not having him matched up with Sabathia every time, but I saw no way Charlie would have gone to Lee on short rest in game 4. Everybody (media and fans) was talking as if it was a sure thing he was going to pitch game 4, but he has never pitched on short rest in his career, and starting guys on short rest is not Charlie's thing, especially for guys who have never done it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobb Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Is Sabathia pitching Game 4 for the Yankees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Is Sabathia pitching Game 4 for the Yankees? I'd imagine so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutrojan8 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 The Phillies are 11-1 at home in the postseason the past two years. Pardon us for being happy about grabbing home field back.And they have 3 losses in the last 3 years to the Rockies =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 It would be a bad idea to throw Lee on short rest. Dude's never done it in his career so I don't think they'd make him do it now. Â I really think we can take 2 games here. I think the pitching matchups in games 3 and 4 are very good for the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knickmatic Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) I believe it was the Phillies who took out the Dodgers in the NLCS this year, and LA had home field against them. I think the Angels had home field over the Sox in last year's ALDS, and they lost 3-1. In the same year, the Dodgers beat the Cubs in the NLDS, who had home field. That's just over the last two years. in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006 and 2008, all teams starting with home field advantage in the World Series lost. Pretty inconsistent across the board. I'd say it doesn't really matter.But 1999, 2000, and 2004, the team starting with homefield advantage won. NY twice and those gay sox. AL won like what, 12 or13 straight all-star games Edited October 31, 2009 by Knickmatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knickmatic Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 You are right, across baseball it's pretty inconsistent and doesn't seem to be as big a deal as it is in other sports. But when you play as well at home as the Phillies do, it is absolutely a big deal on an individual level. They have been nearly unbeatable at home the past two Octobers. The reason the Phillies beat the Dodgers this year is because they took one of two to open the series in LA, and then wrecked them in 3 straight at Citizens Bank to end the series. That is what happened against Tampa in the World Series last year as well. So even though across baseball it doesn't seem to be a big deal, there are certain teams with awesome home field advantages, the Phillies being one of them. Obviously the Yankees are far superior to the Dodgers, and even the Rays of last year, so this will be a bit different, but it still helps the confidence level knowing how comfortable they are in their home park.Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the Phillies have the worst home record of all the 1st place teams? They were a better road team than home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 But 1999, 2000, and 2004, the team starting with homefield advantage won. NY twice and those gay sox. AL won like what, 12 or13 straight all-star gamesThe all-star game didn't start deciding home field advantage until like 3 years ago. Retarded for the loser, awesome for the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Knick Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I really am hyped for this game, I truthfully think Andy will pitch very well. He's cold-blooded, and so is a good part of our team which is why I don't see the crowd effecting the outcome. Our offense needs to wake up and score first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the Phillies have the worst home record of all the 1st place teams? They were a better road team than home Through June they were awful at home. Once July hit, they went on a tear. Plus they are always known for being very good there down the stretch, going back to '07 when they caught the Mets. And lol TruTrojan I was actually going to say that the Phillies are undefeated at Citizens Bank Park in October against everybody not from Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) It would be a bad idea to throw Lee on short rest. Dude's never done it in his career so I don't think they'd make him do it now. Â Agreed. Much better idea to use him in game 5 on his regular cycle and let him do what he has done for the past month. Some guys are okay pitching on short rest, and others aren't. Just depends on the guy. The World Series is not the time to experiment and find out whether or not Cliff Lee is one of those guys who can do it haha. Should this series go to game 7, Cole Hamels will pitch for the Phillies, but Charlie said that Lee will be available out of the bullpen to throw 65-70 pitches if need be. If it comes to that and Hamels shows any signs of being bad, Charlie will go to Lee right away I'd imagine. It would be all hands on deck, obviously. Edited October 31, 2009 by Phightins09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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