Guest N4S Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) Source I know it's by Tim Donaghy but didn't everyone think Canseco was a liar? Edited October 29, 2009 by N4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Good read although this could definitely affect people's overall opinions on the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Malone Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) Wow, this will definitely hurt the NBA. Every time i watch a game now ill be thinking about the ref's doing something like that. The 2002 Western Conference Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings presents a stunning example of game and series manipulation at its ugliest. As the teams prepared for Game 6 at the Staples Center, Sacramento had a 3–2 lead in the series. The referees assigned to work Game 6 were Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney, and Ted Bernhardt. As soon as the referees for the game were chosen, the rest of us knew immediately that there would be a Game 7. A prolonged series was good for the league, good for the networks, and good for the game. Oh, and one more thing: it was great for the big-market, star-studded Los Angeles Lakers. In the pregame meeting prior to Game 6, the league office sent down word that certain calls-calls that would have benefitted the Lakers — were being missed by the referees. This was the type of not-so-subtle information that I and other referees were left to interpret. After receiving the dispatch, Bavetta openly talked about the fact that the league wanted a Game 7. "If we give the benefit of the calls to the team that's down in the series, nobody's going to complain. The series will be even at three apiece, and then the better team can win Game 7," Bavetta stated. As history shows, Sacramento lost Game 6 in a wild come-from-behind thriller that saw the Lakers repeatedly sent to the foul line by the referees. For other NBA referees watching the game on television, it was a shameful performance by Bavetta's crew, one of the most poorly officiated games of all time. Wow........... f the nba, i knew the Kings should have gone to the finals. Edited October 29, 2009 by OG_Kush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Wow........... f the nba, i knew the Kings should have gone to the finals. Yeah, that's really pathetic and low. I wish people could just be honest about things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N4S Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) I think the NBA is the most rigged corrupt league in American sports. Edited October 29, 2009 by N4S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog17k Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I think the NBA is the most rigged corrupt league in American sports. Oh yeah, without a doubt. The game is so fast paced, you can throw in so many phantom foul calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldChili Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Haha, I guess this changes everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amare320 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Poor Kings, i knew that game was rigged! constant unneeded foul calls on the Kings players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 "If we give the benefit of the calls to the team that's down in the series, nobody's going to complain. The series will be even at three apiece, and then the better team can win Game 7," Bavetta stated. So the better team won game 7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 If it's all decided by one game, anyway, then they should just make the playoffs like the NCAA and make it all a one game series.. This is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Be ready for the clueless Los Angeles Lakers fans to make excuses because last time I brought this up they had the worst excuses and knew they were handed the series. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I'll probably buy this book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasX Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I'll probably buy this book.This, I know hes a scumbag but its mass interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deestillballin Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 As much as the 2002 WCF made me mad Karma came back around in 2003... Its the past, let it go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I'll probably buy the book too as it will probably give me a whole new outlook on the game, which could be good or bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Spidey Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 thats pretty bad..the Kings got completely screwed out of going to the finals. One more reason to hate the Lakers for me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted October 29, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 LOL, people read one sentence and jump all over it. I guess that's the difference between the classes I took in school, and the classes some of you took? Damn, this place is so annoying every now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N4S Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 What classes? ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted October 29, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 AP English, but I don't see why regular English classes wouldn't suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreusito Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I guess some of it is true, most of it is fake or exaggerated. Interesting though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenneral Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 LOL, people read one sentence and jump all over it. I guess that's the difference between the classes I took in school, and the classes some of you took? Damn, this place is so annoying every now and then.Don't get annoyed because people have opinions on your team. Whether or not they should have made it to the finals it doesn't matter anymore because it's done with. It's the current season that counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) Be ready for the clueless Los Angeles Lakers fans to make excuses because last time I brought this up they had the worst excuses and knew they were handed the series. . No excuses just facts. Game 5. Kings on what should have been their last possession. Webber knocks the ball out of bounds and slams his palm on the floor in frustration knowing he has just lost the game. Refs completely blow the call give it to Sac for a possession they never should have had. Bibby hits the game winner. Game 2. Kobe has food poisoning so LA has to rely on Shaq to carry them. LA has taken game one on the road. League has a high rated series and doesn't want it to end quickly so they assign Bernie Fryer to the game. The ref quoted to hate Shaq, the ref proven to call more offensive fouls on Shaq than any other. Calls two questionable offensive fouls on Shaq in the first half, he sits, Kings blowout. The league manipulated game 6 you will get no argument from me on that. But the league also manipulated game 2. And the refs literally handed Sac game 5. But all anyone ever focuses on is game 6, because they hate LA and because the other games disprove a long standing belief that LA is handed everything. For full disclosure game 4 included a lucky 3 before the halftime buzzer that replays proved was late. So Sac was handed two games, LA was handed two games. Game 7 winner take all, Sac had their chances, gagged at the line and airballed in the 4th with some howlingly bad shots from Christie and Peja. You want to whine about game 6 go ahead, but you don't get to choose just one game and ignore the rest. The refs handed Sac game 5 in a total screw job. The league handed Sac game 2 in a ref assignment manipulation to extend a series, one of Stern's favorite tricks. Edited October 29, 2009 by Sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N4S Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) AP English, but I don't see why regular English classes wouldn't suffice. People are allowed to make judgment calls on whether they believe something is true or false. Correct? What does AP English classes have to do with anything? Does this make your judgment better than others? Make you more superior? Edited October 29, 2009 by N4S 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted October 29, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 People are allowed to make judgment calls on whether they believe something is true or false. Correct? What does AP English classes have to do with anything? Does this make your judgment better than others? Make you more superior?It was actually a joke, but I guess I'm the only one on the forums that isn't allowed to be a clown 24/7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted October 29, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 No excuses just facts. Game 5. Kings on what should have been their last possession. Webber knocks the ball out of bounds and slams his palm on the floor in frustration knowing he has just lost the game. Refs completely blow the call give it to Sac for a possession they never should have had. Bibby hits the game winner. Game 2. Kobe has food poisoning so LA has to rely on Shaq to carry them. LA has taken game one on the road. League has a high rated series and doesn't want it to end quickly so they assign Bernie Fryer to the game. The ref quoted to hate Shaq, the ref proven to call more offensive fouls on Shaq than any other. Calls two questionable offensive fouls on Shaq in the first half, he sits, Kings blowout. The league manipulated game 6 you will get no argument from me on that. But the league also manipulated game 2. And the refs literally handed Sac game 5. But all anyone ever focuses on is game 6, because they hate LA and because the other games disprove a long standing belief that LA is handed everything. For full disclosure game 4 included a lucky 3 before the halftime buzzer that replays proved was late. So Sac was handed two games, LA was handed two games. Game 7 winner take all, Sac had their chances, gagged at the line and airballed in the 4th with some howlingly bad shots from Christie and Peja. You want to whine about game 6 go ahead, but you don't get to choose just one game and ignore the rest. The refs handed Sac game 5 in a total screw job. The league handed Sac game 2 in a ref assignment manipulation to extend a series, one of Stern's favorite tricks.Excellent post, Sky. Already been down that route, so I wasn't going to step into it again. Funny thing is, if any of their teams were mentioned, this book would be ridiculous and false...but I've ran across that so many times in the five years I've had OTR up, it's really just a "thing" that happens here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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