YugoRocketsFan Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 With so many good players on the Lakers and one basketball, I think Ariza fit the team more but we will see how it works out... Exactly, laker fans are all like OMGZ ARTEST, MORE TALENT, WE GUNNA WIN RINGZ CUZ WE HAVE MORE TALENT. Ariza fit the Lakers perfectly. The Lakers dont need a ball stopper, they need a person who takes easy shots, a high intensity player, sort of like Battier, not an Artest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2ThaG Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Damn, even I was able to admit that the Spurs, who I absolutely hate, were a much better team after getting Jefferson. I can't believe what I'm hearing. If you don't think Ron Artest fits into the triangle and that we'll miss Ariza's defense over Ron (which is hilarious), then I don't know what to tell you. They would think we suck if we added Jordan in his prime on this team. But in reality they are truly scared and won't admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicbalala245 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) Anybody know where this guy is he must feel like an IDIOT Artest is going where the money is IMO. And how are Lakers supposed to get him when they probably can't even get Odom and Ariza both lol... stupid Raptor fan. I'm not saying all Raptor fans are stupid just him. Edited July 3, 2009 by magicbalala245 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Damn, even I was able to admit that the Spurs, who I absolutely hate, were a much better team after getting Jefferson. I can't believe what I'm hearing. If you don't think Ron Artest fits into the triangle and that we'll miss Ariza's defense over Ron (which is hilarious), then I don't know what to tell you. lol, so you have no doubt in your mind that Artest will probably mess up more than Ariza? You think a guy that has been a ball stopper his entire career will automatically stop because hes playing with a top 2 player. The Lakers do add more talent but they dont add a piece that helps them as Ariza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 3, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Exactly, laker fans are all like OMGZ ARTEST, MORE TALENT, WE GUNNA WIN RINGZ CUZ WE HAVE MORE TALENT. Ariza fit the Lakers perfectly. The Lakers dont need a ball stopper, they need a person who takes easy shots, a high intensity player, sort of like Battier, not an Artest.No, we don't need anymore camp and shoot players. Battier relies on help defense, which means he'll be relying on Bryant and our bigs...more load on Bryant's shoulders. Ron Artest was your ball-stopper in Houston because nobody knew who to run the offense through on that team. You guys said the same thing last season, though, and then you were literally slapped in the face when the Lakers won it all in five games, despite all of your team reps switched to Orlando. Can't say I didn't expect this to happen. Denial is frustration's ugly cousin, and they always hang out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 3, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Anybody know where this guy is he must feel like an IDIOT stupid Raptor fan. I'm not saying all Raptor fans are stupid just him.Chill out with the personal attacks, dude. We all have opinions. There are just as many stupid Lakers fans as there are other teams' fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 3, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 lol, so you have no doubt in your mind that Artest will probably mess up more than Ariza? You think a guy that has been a ball stopper his entire career will automatically stop because hes playing with a top 2 player. The Lakers do add more talent but they dont add a piece that helps them as Ariza.You didn't even watch Trevor. He was getting destroyed by Melo and Turkoglu in the playoffs, and had trouble finding his shot in the Finals. You're telling us that Ron had his struggles in the postseason as a primary scoring option, but you ignore the fact that Trevor had his in the grandest stage of them all as a 4th-5th option that was almost always wide-open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldChili Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Why are people acting like adjustments can't be made? Artest fits perfectly within the triangle, and he'll play much better than last season. Great pick-up by the Lakers, especially if they can get back Odom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 lol its alright real deal, lets just wait till season begins and when artest starts sucking you guys will be like OMGZ ARTEST AND LUKE FOR LEBRON, DO IT MITCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2ThaG Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 lol its alright real deal, lets just wait till season begins and when artest starts sucking you guys will be like OMGZ ARTEST AND LUKE FOR LEBRON, DO IT MITCH Artest doesn't suck on defense wow. He can shoot how ever he likes, but I like his range now better then ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 3, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 lol its alright real deal, lets just wait till season begins and when artest starts sucking you guys will be like OMGZ ARTEST AND LUKE FOR LEBRON, DO IT MITCHI would rather a Celtics or a Spurs fan come in here and talk trash, since they actually have a chance of doing something in the playoffs and know when their team is going to suck, instead of predicting Finals berths every season. And it's funny that you'd say that last line. I wouldn't be shocked if that happened, since our GM knows how to wheel and deal. I distinctly remember everyone saying it was stupid that we were going to trade Kwame for an all-star, also, or offer a very good free agent MLE money (and him take it) without someone like Shaq to recruit for us. But yeah, you're right. We won't be good. We get it. Thanks for sharing the same opinion you had about us last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I would rather a Celtics or a Spurs fan come in here and talk trash, since they actually have a chance of doing something in the playoffs and know when their team is going to suck, instead of predicting Finals berths every season. And it's funny that you'd say that last line. I wouldn't be shocked if that happened, since our GM knows how to wheel and deal. I distinctly remember everyone saying it was stupid that we were going to trade Kwame for an all-star, also, or offer a very good free agent MLE money (and him take it) without someone like Shaq to recruit for us. But yeah, you're right. We won't be good. We get it. Thanks for sharing the same opinion you had about us last season. Read my, rockets are rebuilding thread, I know we are going to suck this upcoming year, im not blind (no insult). You guys wont get Lebron James, he doesnt want to play with ko-me. You guys will be good, but wont be as good when you won the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 3, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Read my, rockets are rebuilding thread, I know we are going to suck this upcoming year, im not blind (no insult). You guys wont get Lebron James, he doesnt want to play with ko-me. You guys will be good, but wont be as good when you won the ring.Yeah, Ko-Me, the selfish bastard who was reluctant to pass in the Conference Finals and Finals, when he had six consecutive games with 8+ assists. I don't even know why Ron Artest wants to come here and play with such a selfish player. Not sure why Odom will re-sign. Why did Fisher even come back? He could've went to the Clippers. Guess LeBron was joking when he actually sent a video tape to Jerry Buss when he was in high school, hoping that the Lakers would somehow trade to get the #1 pick...just so he could play with Ko-Me, who was running the triangle at the time. Awesome that Ko-Me is probably the second player in NBA history to be so selfish and win an NBA championship (Jordan being the first, I suppose). I guess that qualifies as him doing it by himself. Pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 You guys are in denial. Whatever, we will always be the world champs. There is nothing anyone can do about it, yall are mad. Haterrrrrrrrrrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Yeah, Ko-Me, the selfish bastard who was reluctant to pass in the Conference Finals and Finals, when he had six consecutive games with 8+ assists. I don't even know why Ron Artest wants to come here and play with such a selfish player. Not sure why Odom will re-sign. Why did Fisher even come back? He could've went to the Clippers. Guess LeBron was joking when he actually sent a video tape to Jerry Buss when he was in high school, hoping that the Lakers would somehow trade to get the #1 pick...just so he could play with Ko-Me, who was running the triangle at the time. Awesome that Ko-Me is probably the second player in NBA history to be so selfish and win an NBA championship (Jordan being the first, I suppose). I guess that qualifies as him doing it by himself. Pretty cool. Kobe isnt the 2nd best player, he won only 1 ring as a 1st option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 You guys are in denial. Whatever, we will always be the world champs. There is nothing anyone can do about it, yall are mad. Haterrrrrrrrrrs. OMGZ WE ARE THE BEST, WE ARE THE LAKERS, THA WORLD CHAMPS, BUT WHY DOES EVERYONE FIND US LAKER FANS ANNOYING, WE ARE NORMAL PPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 3, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Kobe isnt the 2nd best player, he won only 1 ring as a 1st option.I didn't say he was the second best player ever. But according to you, the selfish fool did it all by himself...and there are very few that I can think of that fall into that category, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 3, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 OMGZ WE ARE THE BEST, WE ARE THE LAKERS, THA WORLD CHAMPS, BUT WHY DOES EVERYONE FIND US LAKER FANS ANNOYING, WE ARE NORMAL PPL.I actually find you quite annoying, seeing you post in all caps every time you talk about the Lakers (and you really don't deserve to be in this team forum in the first place). You probably should've kicked up your immaturity a bit and added a couple more "Z's" to your OMGZ. Maybe Lakers fans are tired of your act. They have a right to swing back, when all of the swinging originated from the 2008 Playoffs after our loss to Boston. But you guys wouldn't remember that all too well, probably because it only makes you look even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Real Deal Posted July 3, 2009 Owner Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I see things will always be the same here. Figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I actually find you quite annoying, seeing you post in all caps every time you talk about the Lakers (and you really don't deserve to be in this team forum in the first place). You probably should've kicked up your immaturity a bit and added a couple more "Z's" to your OMGZ. Maybe Lakers fans are tired of your act. They have a right to swing back, when all of the swinging originated from the 2008 Playoffs after our loss to Boston. But you guys wouldn't remember that all too well, probably because it only makes you look even worse. Cool man, glad to know that i annoy you. Im showing you what Laker fans do everyday but from my perspective. We only swung in the 1st place because Laker fans never gave credit to Boston and predicted sweeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 If Artest would have gone to any other team like Boston or Cleveland it would have been a great pickup and would make any team better. Instead he goes to the Lakers, playing for a coach he admires, a teammate he admires, and alongside a childhood friend, but hes still going to cause trouble. And hes still not going to listen to anyone and going to jack up shots regardless of what we tell him to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoRocketsFan Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 If Artest would have gone to any other team like Boston or Cleveland it would have been a great pickup and would make any team better. Instead he goes to the Lakers, playing for a coach he admires, a teammate he admires, and alongside a childhood friend, but hes still going to cause trouble. And hes still not going to listen to anyone and going to jack up shots regardless of what we tell him to do. Boston no. Cleveland, probably. I dont think he will cause trouble but he will jack up shots and that wont work in the triangle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 If you think hes going to jack up shots despite what the coach tells him then thats fine. You cant argue that Artest will be a shut down defender and he will take a load of pressure off Kobe to guard the other teams best player, now we have 2 shut down defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Billionaire Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 lol I'm pretty sure it's you who gushes Ariza's 3PT% in playoffs (47.6%!) compared to Ron's pedestrian 27.7% Wow that's a huge difference. Artest is the better off-the-dribble shooter, but Ariza is the better spot-up/ catch-and-shoot shooter, which is what the Lakers need. When Kobe penetrates, the first option he looks for when he kicks out is Ariza. It is increasingly obvious as the playoffs goes on... in the Finals he did this a lot. Kobe is going to handle the ball a lot... I know Artest is not really comfortable in shooting before dribbling first. Remember we're talking about the offensive end, not defensive. Without looking, I'm pretty sure Artest shot better from three than Ariza did, even with probably twice as many attempts. Ariza's higher field goal percentage comes from him attacking the rim and getting wide-open shots. Artest wasn't going to see much of that in Houston, especially when Yao was struggling or out. A primary option Ron Artest is a bad thing. One that can take a backseat and be the third option is excellent. Saying he won't take a backseat to a player is ridiculous (just putting this here in advance) because he did that with Kevin Martin in Sacramento, and Jermaine O'Neal in Indiana, with no problems (he just didn't like Sacramento). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUBucksfan09 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I almost want to say Ariza. Ariza let the ball flow in the triangle offense and I think Artest will hold on to it more. Ariza made huge defensive plays in the playoffs that helped Lakers win(see Denver series). Artest is the better player no doubt in my mind but Ariza just fit more in my opinion. However I think Artest will have a much better year than Ariza will in Houston because Houston is going to be hurting and without Kobe and company to spread the floor, Ariza won't have the open shots he had or the same looks he had with the Lakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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