Beastley's Official Mock Draft Thread

[bravenewworld]

Henry may be a better scorer, but he isn't the better player. John Wall does more at the guard position in regards to being a team player who is looking to find the open man and not just his own shot.

 

Eh. Wall is the overall better point guard, but that is simply just because Henry never plays the one.

[JWaLL]

Eh. Wall is the overall better point guard, but that is simply just because Henry never plays the one.

True, they both have very high ceilings for their potential in the NBA and could easily be superstars. I just have a feeling Henry will be drafted and remain a shooting guard, which is good because he'll be able to focus mostly on what he does best, and that's scoring. Someone like Wall is just more impacting to a team, and watching him in college he can truly run the floor and is a great passer, as well as an excellent scorer.

[bravenewworld]

True, they both have very high ceilings for their potential in the NBA and could easily be superstars. I just have a feeling Henry will be drafted and remain a shooting guard, which is good because he'll be able to focus mostly on what he does best, and that's scoring. Someone like Wall is just more impacting to a team, and watching him in college he can truly run the floor and is a great passer, as well as an excellent scorer.

 

Bah. you cant say he is more impactful just because his style is different, maybe as far as marketing and what not this is true but not for success of a team.

 

Who would you consider more of an impact for their team? D Howard or Pau Gasol?

Obviously the answer is Howard, but yet without Gasol the Lakers would not have won a title last season.

 

And both players are scorers, Walls passing and handling ability is not that great (7 assists 4+ TOs) i think the only real difference is that Henry is a 2-3 rather then Wall who is a 1-2. Personally i think a 2-3 has to be more of a complete player.

[Years]

At the beginning of the year he was higher, but he hasn't really done much this year, and has made scouts a little bit iffy on him. I could see him moving up a bit by the time the draft comes around, but this draft as Cole Aldrich, Derrick Favors, Patrick Patterson, Ed Davis, to just name a few he has to battle against.

 

It has alot to do with the fact that he switched teams so It took him a while to get adjusted

[Beastley]

1. New Jersey - John Wall (6'4'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)

2. Minnesota - Evan Turner (6'6'', SG, Ohio State, Jr.)

3. Golden State - Derrick Favors (6'9'', PF, Georgia Tech, Fresh.)

4. Philadelphia - Ed Davis (6'9'', PF, North Carolina, Soph.)

5. Washington - Al-Farouq Aminu (6’9’’, SF, Wake Forest, Soph.)

6. Indiana - Wesley Johnson (6'7'', SF, Syracuse, Jr.)

7. Detroit - Hassan Whiteside (7'0'', C, Marshall, Fresh.)

8. Sacramento - Cole Aldrich (6'11'', C, Kansas, Jr.)

9. Milwaukee - Greg Monroe (6'10'', PF, Georgetown, Soph.)

10. Utah - Xavier Henry (6’6’’, SG, Kansas, Fresh.)

11. LA Clippers - Devin Ebanks (6’8’’, SF, West Virginia, Soph.)

12. New Orleans - DeMarcus Cousins (6’10’’, PF, Kentucky, Fresh.)

13. Memphis - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', C, Lithuania)

14. Chicago - Patrick Patterson (6‘8“, PF, Kentucky, Jr.)

15. Miami - Solomon Alabi (7’1’’, C, Florida State, Soph.)

16. Miami - Willie Warren (6’3’’, SG, Oklahoma, Soph.)

17. Minnesota - Stanley Robinson (6'8'', SF, UConn, Sr.)

18. Utah - Larry Sanders (6’10’’, PF, VCU, Jr.)

19. Oklahoma City - Ekpe Udoh (6'10'', PF, Baylor, Jr.)

20. Houston - Manny Harris (6'5'', SG, Michigan, Jr.)

21. Oklahoma City - Craig Brackins (6’10’’, PF, Iowa State, Jr.)

22. Portland - Charles Garcia (6'10'', PF, Seattle University, Jr.)

23. San Antonio - James Anderson (6’6’’, SG, Oklahoma State, Jr.)

24. Memphis - Gani Lawal (6‘8‘’, PF, Georgia Tech, Jr.)

25. Atlanta - Keith Benson (6’11’’, C, Oakland, Jr.)

26. New Jersey - Damion James (6'7'', SF, Texas, Sr.)

27. Orlando - Jarvis Varnado (6'9'', PF, Mississippi State, Sr.)

28. Boston - Lance Stephenson (6'5'', SG, Cincinnati, Fresh.)

29. Cleveland - Jan Vesely (6’11’’, PF, Czech Republic)

30. Memphis - Paul George (6’7’’, SG, Fresno State, Soph.)

[Guest The Situation]

The only players I want the 6ers to get are:

 

John Wall (6'4'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.) - Not really possible

 

Derrick Favors (6'9'', PF, Georgia Tech, Fresh.)

 

Al-Farouq Aminu (6’9’’, SF, Wake Forest, Soph.)

[bigdog17k]

Omg it would be a dream come true for me if we got Varnado!

[Beastley]

The Siuation-What's wrong with Davis?

[La Bomba]

No way the Grizzlies get a center. We drafted Thabeet last season and management is really high on him. They'll get a guard most likely.

[Beastley]

Isn't Thabeet on the trading block?

[Real Deal]

I would think the Grizzlies are looking at a small forward, to replace Gay.

 

And why no Sherron Collins in the first round? He should be projected to go late first right now...but I'd say he probably belongs somewhere in between 15-20.

[BasX]

I would think the Grizzlies are looking at a small forward, to replace Gay.

 

And why no Sherron Collins in the first round? He should be projected to go late first right now...but I'd say he probably belongs somewhere in between 15-20.

For Sherron I see what you mean. A long tourney run will bump him high. What can hurt him is his height, though not as much as it would in the past and he has a tendency to put on a lot of weight in the off-season. Skill wise he is no doubt a first rounder and I'd trade for him on the Raptors because he is a leader (though, he don't need him)

Edited January 28, 2010 by BasX

[La Bomba]

Isn't Thabeet on the trading block?

According to Chad Ford he is, but I haven't heard a thing.

 

I would think the Grizzlies are looking at a small forward, to replace Gay.

Completely forgot about that. I would love to get Wesley Johnson or Devin Ebanks.

Edited January 29, 2010 by La Bomba

[Beastley]

If the Grizzlies are looking to replace Rudy Gay, then should draft Wesley Johnson. The issue is this:

 

-Wesley Johnson will go around 3-6.

-Grizzlies will probably land around 10-12/13 for their pick.

-Ebanks is slipping slowly but he hasn't been going up at all this year, which is an issue. He started around 6-8 in some drafts. Seven when I made my first draft, but since I see him being around 14-16 right now.

 

Real Deal. When I'll do my full 60 pick draft which I make in the next couple days I'll probably have Sherron Collins between 28-33.

Edited January 29, 2010 by Beastley

[La Bomba]

Grizzlies will likely be a late lottery pick or 15-20 range if we make the playoffs, which is a fair place to pick Ebanks. I can also see the Grizzlies including the pick in a trade for a veteran small forward.

[Beastley]

1. New Jersey - John Wall (6'4'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)

2. Minnesota - Evan Turner (6'6'', SG, Ohio State, Jr.)

3. Golden State - Derrick Favors (6'9'', PF, Georgia Tech, Fresh.)

4. Washington - Wesley Johnson (6'7'', SF, Syracuse, Jr.)

5. Sacramento - Hassan Whiteside (7'0'', C, Marshall, Fresh.)

6. Indiana - DeMarcus Cousins (6’10’’, PF, Kentucky, Fresh.)

7. Philadelphia - Cole Aldrich (6'11'', C, Kansas, Jr.)

8. Detroit - Greg Monroe (6'10'', PF, Georgetown, Soph.)

9. Utah - Ed Davis (6'9'', PF, North Carolina, Soph.)

10. Milwaukee - Al-Farouq Aminu (6’9’’, SF, Wake Forest, Soph.)

11. LA Clippers - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', C, Lithuania)

12. New Orleans - Devin Ebanks (6’8’’, SF, West Virginia, Soph.)

13. Oklahoma City - Solomon Alabi (7’1’’, C, Florida State, Soph.)

14. Memphis - Elias Harris (6'8'', PF, Gonzaga, Fresh.)

15. Chicago - Xavier Henry (6’6’’, SG, Kansas, Fresh.)

16. Minnesota - Damion James (6'7'', SF, Texas, Sr.)

17. Miami - Ekpe Udoh (6'10'', PF, Baylor, Jr.)

18. Miami - Stanley Robinson (6'8'', SF, UConn, Sr.)

19. Houston - Patrick Patterson (6‘8“, PF, Kentucky, Jr.)

20. Oklahoma City - Jan Vesely (6’11’’, PF, Czech Republic)

21. Utah - Larry Sanders (6’10’’, PF, VCU, Jr.)

22. San Antonio - Willie Warren (6’3’’, SG, Oklahoma, Soph.)

23. Portland - Keith Benson (6’11’’, C, Oakland, Jr.)

24. New Jersey - Charles Garcia (6'10'', PF, Seattle University, Jr.)

25. Orlando - James Anderson (6’6’’, SG, Oklahoma State, Jr.)

26. Atlanta - Armon Johnson (6'3'', PG, Nevada, Jr.)

27. Memphis - Craig Brackins (6’10’’, PF, Iowa State, Jr.)

28. Boston - Manny Harris (6'5'', SG, Michigan, Jr.)

29. Memphis - DaSean Butler (6'7'', SF, West Virginia, Sr.)

30. Cleveland - Gani Lawal (6‘8‘’, PF, Georgia Tech, Jr.)

 

31. New Jersey - Quincy Pondexter (6'7'', SF, Washington, Sr.)

32. Minnesota - Dexter Pittman (6'10'', C, Texas, Sr.)

33. Golden State - Sherron Collins (5'11'', PG, Kansas, Sr.)

34. Washington - Jarvis Varnado (6'9'', PF, Mississippi State, Sr.)

35. Sacramento - Jon Scheyer (6'5'', PG, Duke, Sr.)

36. Indiana - Marquis Gilstrap (6'7'', SF, Iowa State, Sr.)

37. Philadelphia - Jerome Dyson (6'3'', SG, UConn, Sr.)

38. Detroit - Jerome Jordan (7’1’’, C, Tulsa, Sr.)

39. New York - Artsiom Parakhouski (6'11'', C, Radford, Sr.)

40. Milwaukee - Michael Washington (6'10'', PF, Arkansas, Sr.)

41. Toronto - Omar Samhan (6'11'', C, St. Mary's, Sr.)

42. New Orleans - Alexey Sheved (6'6'', PG, Russia)

43. Oklahoma City - Trevor Booker (6'7'', PF, Clemson, Sr.)

44. LA Lakers - Greivis Vasquez (6'5'', PG, Maryland, Sr.)

45. Chicago - Dwayne Collins (6'9'', PF, Miami, Sr.)

46. Charlotte - Nemanja Bjelica (6'10'', SF, Serbia)

47. Toronto - Vladimir Dasic (6'9'', SF, Serbia)

48. Minnesota - Paulao Prestes (6'10'', PF, Brazil)

49. Minnesota - Ludovic Vaty (6'9'', PF, France)

50. Charlotte - Deon Thompson (6'8'', PF, North Carolina, Sr.)

51. Utah - Rodney Green (6'5'', SG, LaSalle, Sr.)

52. San Antonio - Pablo Aguilar (6'8'', PF, Spain)

53. Dallas - Landon Milbourne (6'7'', SF, Maryland, Sr.)

54. Indiana - Lazar Hayward (6'6'', SF, Marquette, Sr.)

55. Orlando - Luke Harangody (6'7'', PF, Notre Dame, Sr.)

56. Atlanta - Matt Bouldin (6'5'', SG, Gonzaga, Sr.)

57. New York - Latavious Williams (6'8'', PF, NBDL)

58. Boston - Scottie Reynolds (6'2'', PG, Villanova, Sr.)

59. LA Lakers - Raymar Morgan (6'7'', SF, Michigan State, Sr.)

60. Phoenix - Tasmin Mitchell (6'7'', SF, LSU, Sr.)

[AtTheDriveIn]

Big call on the #5 pick. From what I hear, Whiteside is a 6'11 forward, very raw offensively, skinny, is very long and mobile, has springs in his feet which make his lateral quickness quite awesome and could be quite a dominant defensive player. A lot of analysts think he needs at least another year or more at Marshall to understand what sort of player he'll be at the next level, but if he jumps to the NBA earlier, I'm not sure he'll go that high unless some GM is sold by Whiteside's potential.

 

Also, did you know that aside from Latavious Williams, who really screwed himself by deciding to go to the NBDL, your whole second round is made up of either NCAA seniors or International players. Wow, lol.

[Beastley]

I actually didn't even realize hat. Real wierd, but I left out some players like Lance for example because of the chances they'll stay in school.

[KurbyFX]

WHITESIDE?! You serious? Pretty bold call. Gody and Scottie both seem a bit low...

[Real Deal]

Sacramento is very satisfied with Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes right now. Additionally, Jon Brockman is showing he can be a pretty damn good player for them.

 

I wouldn't be shocked to see the Kings deal Martin at the deadline, or maybe even on draft day. With that done, you'd have to wonder if they are going to shoot for a guard in the draft, possibly a point guard (as Evans is a better two-guard, and plays most of his time there).

[KurbyFX]

The mock is considering positional needs? If so, there's a LOT of picks that don't look right.

[Built Ford Tough]

Sacramento is very satisfied with Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes right now. Additionally, Jon Brockman is showing he can be a pretty damn good player for them.

 

I wouldn't be shocked to see the Kings deal Martin at the deadline, or maybe even on draft day. With that done, you'd have to wonder if they are going to shoot for a guard in the draft, possibly a point guard (as Evans is a better two-guard, and plays most of his time there).

 

Lets be honest though, is there really a point guard in this years draft class, aside from John Wall, that is worthy of a top 5 pick? Hell, is there even a point guard excluding Wall who is worthy of a top 10 pick?

 

If I had to guess, I would imagine that the Kings will be picking around the 4-7 range and, in my opinion, there are absolutely no point guards who are worth taking with that kind of a pick.

 

I wouldn't mind a Turner pick if I was a Kings fan simply because I think that the ball handeling abilities of Turner and Evans together could possibly compensate for not having a true point guard on the floor, but unless the Kings land a top 3 pick, I don't think that Turner will be around.

 

If you are a rebuilding team with a nice draft pick, I think it is absolutely foolish to not go with who you consider to be the BPA, regardless of position. The Kings really only have one player on their roster who should be considered untouchable, and that is Tyreke Evans. No matter how high they are on Thompson, Hawes or even Casspi, if you are the Kings you are making a mistake not drafting the BPA, and, realistically, that is looking like it will be a big man, or maybe even a small forward like Aminu or Johnson.

Edited February 2, 2010 by Built Ford Tough

[Real Deal]

I guess me saying "possibly a point guard" throws John Wall into the mix. There's always a chance the Kings win the lottery, right?

 

But yeah, other than Wall, you have Warren (Oklahoma), Johnson (Nevada) and Collins (Kansas).

 

Jacob Pullen would be an NBA point, but I have no idea if he's staying in school or what. He has been very, very impressive this year, and he's the reason why Kansas almost lost that game against K-State.

[KurbyFX]

Warren was a projected POTY candidate AND a top 5 pick coming into the season [from the mocks I was reading/saw] He's more of a SG than PG, though.

 

Pullen has an amazing shot. I was jizzing my pants in the Kansas/KSU game when I saw him launch it from that far.

[AtTheDriveIn]

But yeah, other than Wall, you have Warren (Oklahoma), Johnson (Nevada) and Collins (Kansas).

 

There was a lot of talk before the season about Warren being read to be the primary ballhandler for Oklahoma. However, from watching them this season, I think they prefer either of their two other guards (Mason-Griffin and Crocker) than Warren to be the 'generals' at this point. Warren's body is probably more suited to a point guard position, but his game at the moment says that he'll be at best an average at best combo guard in the NBA.

 

I have to be honest in saying I never saw what the big deal about Warren was even when the Griffins were at Oklahoma. He reminds me a lot of Randy Foye, and Foye's game hasn't translated particuluarly well. He did have a nice scoring season last season in Minnesota, but poor shooting percentages and and unwillingness (or inability) to do anything other than score will basically keep him on the 'role player' level for his career. I'm not saying Warren will end up the same, maybe he works hard and becomes an integral part of some team, but at best, that's the way I see Warren's career going at the moment.

 

 

I haven't seen Johnson play so I wont comment; as for Collins however, I don't think there's enough of him for him to be able to stick it in the NBA for very long. His most successful seasons will most likely come when he aknowleges that Europe is probably the best option for him as a professional.

 

None of the guys you mentioned are worth of even coming close to a lottery pick at the moment, in my opinion.