Smitty Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Yes, because stats from two different era's prove that one player is better. . Please, respond to my first posts, and Smitty, as usual, knows nothing, so he makes dumb remarks. . ..said the wannabe Skip Bayless. I just don't really care enough to debate at all. And even so..my "dumb remarks" are better than your outlandish claims. Rose was sure a bust, huh? Keep it up, Skip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 ..said the wannabe Skip Bayless. Typical response from you. Please, respond to my original post. It's obvious that YOU can't, and you're going to wait until someone else provides reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Read my post again, Skip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Read my post again, Skip. Nope, he hasn't been a bust, but Michael Beasley hasn't done [expletive]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWaLL Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 This is just comical now. This kid has no evidence to support his opinion and is just stubborn enough to hang on to his original statement while everyone makes him look like a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 This is just comical now. This kid has no evidence to support his opinion and is just stubborn enough to hang on to his original statement while everyone makes him look like a tool. I've made my statements, and you have not answered a single one of the questions. You addressed scoring ability with stats, which is definitely a big component of determining who is a better scorer, but that is where it ended with you. You threw out stats, and I threw out reasons, which you have yet to answer. Here, I'll make it easy since you're a lazy [expletive]: If Michael Jordan was so great, then how come when he retired, the Chicago Bulls only lost two more games the following season? BTW, Michael Jordan's high scoring came when the NBA was getting many expansion teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Rat Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 lmfao this is possibly the stupidest thread i've ever seen. You can say Jordan had Pippen but Kobe had Shaq and now Gasol. Not only did Jordan play in a completely different era but in a completely different game. It was a way more physical game where hand checks weren't called, and you had to earn your points. Also, think about the competition he had compared to what Kobe has to go through, not even close to each other. Jordan is better than Kobe, case closed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) lmfao this is possibly the stupidest thread i've ever seen. You can say Jordan had Pippen but Kobe had Shaq and now Gasol. Not only did Jordan play in a completely different era but in a completely different game. It was a way more physical game where hand checks weren't called, and you had to earn your points. Also, think about the competition he had compared to what Kobe has to go through, not even close to each other. Jordan is better than Kobe, case closed. AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! MJ had MUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh weaker competition! Edited July 4, 2009 by EastCoastNiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Oh man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I really can't believe that you are trying to compare the over-all competition of the late 1980's and 1990's to the competition of today. - Aging Pistons - Aging Lakers - Expansion teams galore The only real good team Michael Jordan ever beat in the playoffs was the New York Knicks. The Utah Jazz were not as good as you'd like to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Rat Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Lakers? Pistons? Jazz?And doesn't he have 2 more rings than Kobe? Yes.And wouldn't he have won 8 in a row if he didn't play baseball (or at least try to)? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Rat Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I really can't believe that you are trying to compare the over-all competition of the late 1980's and 1990's to the competition of today. - Aging Pistons - Aging Lakers - Expansion teams galore The only real good team Michael Jordan ever beat in the playoffs was the New York Knicks. The Utah Jazz were not as good as you'd like to think. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNiner Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Lakers? Pistons? Jazz?And doesn't he have 2 more rings than Kobe? Yes.And wouldn't he have won 8 in a row if he didn't play baseball (or at least try to)? Yes. As I said before, the Pistons and Lakers were aging, and the Jazz were not as good as you guys think. Karl Malone and John Stockten are where it starts and ends. You can bring up JH, GO, and others, but they were not that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Personally I think Amare is a bit better than both of those in the first post.This. What, are the Teletubbies > Power Rangers? HELL NAH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) ...unbelievable Edited July 4, 2009 by Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 http://i44.tinypic.com/2d6p63k.jpg And thats why RD should http://i41.tinypic.com/2s9p0nn.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Team Rep: Hawks Undercover Laker fan. Kobe's defense is overrated now, he only plays defense when he wants to (against LeBron and the other top players), the fact he keeps making all defense teams is appalling. Every facet of MJ's game you fault can also be applied to Kobe. MJ won 6 rings as the best player on his team, Kobe has won 1. http://neoavatara.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lost-logo1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2ThaG Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Team Rep: Hawks Undercover Laker fan. Kobe's defense is overrated now, he only plays defense when he wants to (against LeBron and the other top players), the fact he keeps making all defense teams is appalling. Every facet of MJ's game you fault can also be applied to Kobe. MJ won 6 rings as the best player on his team, Kobe has won 1. http://neoavatara.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lost-logo1.jpg He's a Suns and Celtics fan, we all know him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Check my Stats Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I was kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I just don't know how anyone can look at this and not laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren2ThaG Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I just don't know how anyone can look at this and not laugh. Even girls will laugh at this! ay maricon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 http://adorkablegrrl.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/sense.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcstarheel Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Jordan's Playoff Stats Season G FG% 3P% FT% MP PTS TRB AST 1984-85 4 0.436 0.125 0.828 42.8 29.3 5.8 8.5 1985-86 3 0.505 1 0.872 45 43.7 6.3 5.7 1986-87 3 0.417 0.4 0.897 42.7 35.7 7 6 1987-88 10 0.531 0.333 0.869 42.7 36.3 7.1 4.7 1988-89 17 0.51 0.286 0.799 42.2 34.8 7 7.6 1989-90 16 0.514 0.32 0.836 42.1 36.7 7.2 6.8 1990-91 17 0.524 0.385 0.845 40.5 31.1 6.4 8.4 1991-92 22 0.499 0.386 0.857 41.8 34.5 6.2 5.8 1992-93 19 0.475 0.389 0.805 41.2 35.1 6.7 6 1994-95 10 0.484 0.367 0.81 42 31.5 6.5 4.5 1995-96 18 0.459 0.403 0.818 40.7 30.7 4.9 4.1 1996-97 19 0.456 0.194 0.831 42.3 31.1 7.9 4.8 1997-98 21 0.462 0.302 0.812 41.5 32.4 5.1 3.5 Career 179 0.487 0.332 0.828 41.8 33.4 6.4 5.7 That is why people always sing his praises, he got it done when the most people were watching. Granted the competition wasn't the best, but it just looked as if he were dominating whoever stood in front of him. Over his career, 33 PPG, 6 RPG, 6 APG in the 'offs. That can't be denied. Other than 3 years, he led the league in scoring in the 'offs. That is most likely in the top 5 of playoff stat lines over a career. By contrast, Kobe to this point, has produced 25, 5, and 5 in the 'offs. That's where most people see the comparison between them as going to Jordan. I do agree with you that Kobe is more skilled. It's pretty easy to see...Kobe has more ways to get his shot off and get to the basket. Jordan kept 2-3 moves in the bank and used those exclusively. But Kobe still has more work to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artesticle Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 hahaha I remember this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 First of all it is so difficult to not win a championship without a dominant big you can go back almost every single championship won the team had a dominant big, Jordan did it 6 times. Then find me another swingman averaging 30+ a game shooting 50% from the field. East Coast sorry this thread is a JOKE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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