Phightins Posted June 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 (edited) And just an FYI, my "trade everyone!" line was 100% sarcastic. There really is not too much they can do right now. Edited June 12, 2010 by Phightins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) Not yet, Brown will most likely not be up here until September at the earliest. Ibanez is stuck here whether Phillies fans like it or not (thanks Ruben!), and they do not want to start Brown's ARB clock yet (which does make sense). If anybody outfielder gets called up it will be John Mayberry Jr. (in fact he may be called up as soon as Tuesday, so we have an extra right handed bat for the Yankees series against Sabathia and Pettitte).Funny how great signing can go to terrible signing over the course of a year. That's why it's not fair the judge contracts 1 year into them. BTW - not calling it a terrible signing, it was still decent, and may end up being good if ibanez can turn it around, just saying in general Edited June 13, 2010 by Fish7718 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) Funny how great signing can go to terrible signing over the course of a year. That's why it's not fair the judge contracts 1 year into them. BTW - not calling it a terrible signing, it was still decent, and may end up being good if ibanez can turn it around, just saying in general It was great for the first 3 months. And those 3 months is part of what propelled us to the pennant, so it's hard for me to hate on it in that regard. But, it just looks like a lot of his bat speed is gone. He has always had a ridiculously quick bat and it just doesn't seem like it's there anymore. It is still June though, so you are right we should give him time, I am just not holding my breath on him returning to his old form. Bad decision by Ruben to give him 3 years, no matter how you look at it. At the time of the signing, he should have been able to see this situation coming. I am sure he did not see Raul falling off the face of the earth by halfway through year 2, but he knew Jayson Werth would be up for an extension, and he also knew that we have a bunch of very good outfielders in the system (the only position we have a lot of at the time being, especially now with Drabek gone), and that chances are at least one of them would be MLB ready by the winter of 2010 (as it looks like Domonic Brown will be). Giving an aging corner outfielder 3 years seemed like a mistake to many at the time, and now it looks very bad. I am not too thrilled with what Ruben has done so far, to be honest. With the rest of the NL East projecting to be a hell of a lot better within the next 2-3 years, Ruben better get it together. Edited June 13, 2010 by Phightins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish7718 Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 It was great for the first 3 months. And those 3 months is part of what propelled us to the pennant, so it's hard for me to hate on it in that regard. But, it just looks like a lot of his bat speed is gone. He has always had a ridiculously quick bat and it just doesn't seem like it's there anymore. It is still June though, so you are right we should give him time, I am just not holding my breath on him returning to his old form. Bad decision by Ruben to give him 3 years, no matter how you look at it. At the time of the signing, he should have been able to see this situation coming. I am sure he did not see Raul falling off the face of the earth by halfway through year 2, but he knew Jayson Werth would be up for an extension, and he also knew that we have a bunch of very good outfielders in the system (the only position we have a lot of at the time being, especially now with Drabek gone), and that chances are at least one of them would be MLB ready by the winter of 2010 (as it looks like Domonic Brown will be). Giving an aging corner outfielder 3 years seemed like a mistake to many at the time, and now it looks very bad. I am not too thrilled with what Ruben has done so far, to be honest. With the rest of the NL East projecting to be a hell of a lot better within the next 2-3 years, Ruben better get it together.Very true, he should have recognized they would need the money committed to Raul in year 3 for the 2010 off season considering it is a very critical offseason for the Phillies. 2 years 22 million would have probably been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 So, we get the bases loaded and nobody out in the first, and don't score one run. Yeah.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 A 4 run inning! That was nice. Of course, it ends with a double play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 (edited) Matchups for NYY series... Tomorrow: Roy Halladay @ CC SabathiaWednesday: Jamie Moyer @ AJ BurnettThursday: Kyle Kendrick @ Andy Pettitte Edited June 15, 2010 by Phightins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly3rs18 Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 for thursday, average starters age- 42. total career starts- 1091 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Welcome to town, boys... It's usually fun. Looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Interesting... The 3 Yankees starters for this series were the 3 guys they used all throughout the postseason last year. None of the 3 Phillies starters were on the postseason roster (actually I think Kendrick may have been for the NLDS, but regardless...). Obviously Halladay would have been, but it is still an interesting tidbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly3rs18 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 going to the game tomorrow. pumped for halladay vs sabathia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Slight lineup shuffle tonight. Chase Utley is now hitting 2nd and Placido Polanco is hitting 3rd. Not sure if this is just a one game thing so they don't have back to back lefties at any point against Sabathia, or if this will be permanent. I do like the idea of Polanco batting 3rd though, at least until Utley gets back in gear. Also, Raul Ibanez is in LF and Ben Francisco is the DH, which does not make a whole lot of sense to me. At Fenway I understood this, since Ibanez has more experience playing balls off the Green Monster, but frankly, you'd think that the use of a DH would be a great chance to get Ibanez out of the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Also, Jamie Moyer and Kyle Kendrick have been swapped in the rotation. If anything good comes out of this, it means we won't have to deal with the endless jokes/references saying "Jamie Moyer and Andy Pettitte are old!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 As a Phillies fan, I really don't want to complain about the dimensions of a stadium. But Good Lord, that RF porch at Yankee Stadium is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 As a Phillies fan, I really don't want to complain about the dimensions of a stadium. But Good Lord, that RF porch at Yankee Stadium is a joke. Was Tex's cheap? I didn't see it, and the other two were long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Tex's landed right over the 314 marker. And Swisher's was not long gone at all. Hell, he broke his bat and it barely cleared the fence. And I wouldn't say any homerun is "cheap" since both teams have to use the same dimensions, but I just don't understand how they could be allowed to build a stadium with those dimensions in today's age. The RF porch at Citizens Bank Park is generally called a joke, but it is 15 feet deeper than the one at Yankee Stadium. It's definitely not "unfair", just a tad ridiculous. Just IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Just saw the replay of the Swisher HR. It was deeper than I initially thought. Just crazy strength I guess, to break a bat and still hit a deep fly ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Roy Halladay 2010 ERA vs. NL: 1.51Roy Halladay 2010 ERA vs. AL 9.26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I was going to say, I could swear it went at least 10ish rows... but I couldn't find any clips to verify. To address the dimensions, they're the same dimensions as the old Jankee Stadium.. you can't take a team with tradition like the Yanks and change the dimensions. There would be outrage. They've fixed the wind tunnel issue from last year, at least. Leave us alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 The Swisher HR was not half as bad as the Tex HR, but is still borderline in any other park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 That's why Ibanez is playing the field! I am also certain that you're overstating Swisher's HR. Either way, like you said, we're playing in the same park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Ben Francisco gets there easily without having to do the belly flop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomarFachix Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 But there's no bonus points without the bellyflop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Jimmy Rollins, where art thou? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phightins Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 With this team looking more pathetic by the day, I have to keep reminding myself that they do this every year and come out of it every year (in fact, their big slump last year was worse than this, record wise). With that said, I do not remember them looking this awful during their slump last year. Good god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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